Clubhouse is back. Maybe.

The social audio app is now open to the world, and has gained 10 million new downloads in the past two months. Joe thinks there is a chance. Robert thinks that Clubhouse as a feature only will fail.

Zoom launches On Zoom. Frankly, this could be big, and positions Zoom as a clear leader in the video creation and event space.

Substack is getting into the podcast game...big time. Is this a good move or just clutter?

Everyone is after the 50 million estimated content creators.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about this Patreon interview and is concerned about the WSJ report on TikTok's algo. Robert comments once again on Ad Tech.

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In this episode, Joe and Robert break down the future of NFTs in marketing, lead by Gary Vaynerchuk's partnership with Budweiser.

TikTok's parent ByteDance goes full Amazon B2B by launching BytePlus, the product version of their AI algorithm. Joe and Robert both believe this is going to be the next greatest thing in marketing tech.

Printed books soar, but is the new opportunity really in print magazines?

And finally, the advertising market is booming, but not by the normal players.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about the GQ feature of Jason Sudeikis and rants about Loki. Robert rants about mainstream marketing media talking about marketing spend going down, when they have absolutely no idea they are using the wrong metrics.

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In breaking news, MEL magazine is sold by Dollar Shave Club and will begin again in a few months. Joe and Robert discuss why content entrepreneurs should work on exit planning and marketing directors need to focus on M&A.

Is every company a fintech company? Probably not...but the options for content creators to monetize have never been greater. Joe and Robert discuss all the options.

And here comes TikTok! The Chinese social media platform launched a Cameo competitor, hosted one of the largest live streams ever, and now Instagram is shaking a bit.

In rants and raves, Joe comments on the NIL movement that is just starting, and Robert complains about the fear being caused over the "quitting crisis."

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The boys launch the show discussing the NCAA's new ruling that college players can be compensated for their image and likeness.

While we don't know exactly what will happen, we do know that athletes from every sport will be developing out their audience-building strategies as of yesterday.

In other news, experiential events are on the rise (of course), but are brands throwing out the digital bathwater and missing a huge opportunity?

And Buzzfeed finally gets to go public through a SPAC. What's next? About 1,000 M&A deals.

Roberts rants about Google's play with cookies, and raves about Budweiser's new commercial. Joe raves about the Amazon/Wondery purchase of the Smartless podcast.

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The Information estimates that last year's creator economy take is about $2 billion dollars. Does it have room to run?

CNBC and The Drum cover content marketing like it's a brand new thing, while American Express ditches their Departures print magazine for the web's greener pastures.

And podcasts continue to go big, now accounting for over $1 billion in advertising revenues.

Rants and raves include Drew Barrymore's new print magazine and Cristiano Ronaldo's spat with Coca-Cola.

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After more than 50 years, American Airlines decided to shutter its print magazine American Way. Good decision? Not a chance. Based on data? Probably not.

Americans have hit fatigue status when it comes to Video on Demand (VOD). Is this a short-term blip or will things continue to heat up?

Spotify launched its Clubhouse-competitor Greenroom this week. The boys discuss who will win the social audio wars.

And finally, Netflix launched a merchandise home on the web. The problem is it doesn't really sell anything.

Rants and raves include Link-in-Bio startups, which really isn't a thing and how big tech is taking over the creator economy.

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Apple unveiled their new privacy policy this week. Among the features is an ability not to track open rates in email newsletters. The boys think this is bad for ecommerce and advertising and good for long-form email newsletters.

Facebook announced their Substack killer, called Bulletin, in their fight to slowly manipulate more content creators to the platform.

And of all the new products Twitter has announced, the first one to launch is Twitter Blue, a program that will do not one bit of good for anyone (not that we're opinionated or anything).

Rants and raves include a rant from Joe on Facebook's new watch. Robert raves on Bo Burnham's new Netflix show, called Inside. 

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In this episode, Joe and Robert start by dissecting the employment move back to offices. Is this a meaningless blip or will marketing and content creation be altered forever?

Is the future of media podcasts and newsletters? Axios sure thinks so. While it's an amazing and growing model, both Joe and Robert feel there is an opportunity to zag.

Discord does a rebranding. Is there a new CMO or will there be a buyout? The boys think both.

And Donald J. Trump announces that his blog will die and he'll move back to social media. From rented land to rented land? Not the best media strategy.

In rants and raves, Robert raves about the Salesforce 360 movement, while Joe comments on Google knowledge panels.

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Decentralized publishing is starting to become "a thing" with the launch of Mirror.xyz, a site for writers built on top of a crypto economy.

And yes, creator coins are a thing. The tokenization of everything is happening and content creators sit at the center.

Twitter is on the move, finally getting back to the blue verification mark (get yours now). But in bigger news, Twitter is testing out its Super Followers program, which may very well be a game changer.

And are celebrity podcasts really that bad? The short answer? Yes.

In rants and raves, Robert comments on John Oliver's latest on sponsored content, while Joe passes on the sad news of another social media platform killing.

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At almost the same time AT&T announced that their WarnerMedia buy was a mistake, Amazon seems close to picking off MGM Studios. Why is everyone except telecom companies figuring this out?

And then, there's TheSkimm, which is going shopping for a buyer that is NOT a media company.

Big launch week for Pinterest, which adds a live event component, and Twitter, which doesn't quite get their subscription program right.

And finally, is everything turning into paid subscription?

Rants and raves includes Joe's rave about Coinbase's media house launch, while Robert rants about how some companies are out to destroy our reputations and that AI isn't quite there yet.

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Social audio company Clubhouse finally launches in Android, but faces an uphill climb around moderation and trolls.

Hubspot makes a brilliant move in starting a podcast network. Could it be a glorified sponsorship package? Possibly. But it's still brilliant.

And we finally know why YouTube has been fiddling with their short-form video advertising...they are launching a $100 million dollar creator fund for short-form video creators. There you go.

And yes, social media platforms are starting to look the same. Who could be the winner? The boys think Twitch.

Joe's commentary includes book publishers working to establish direct-reader relationships. Robert rants about making a big deal about CMO term length, and raves about Signal's outing of Facebook.

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Verizon changes course again by selling off AOL and Yahoo to Apollo. Joe and Robert think they'll purchase both back for more at a later date.

Rumors are swirling that Netflix may buy Discovery. Smart move considering how much Netflix is paying for original content these days.

And we've seen the future and it is Food52 with their purchase of Dansk.

Twitter Spaces moves aggressively into Clubhouse's turf, but Joe thinks the online event business should be shaking right now. Robert still can't get a Spaces invite though.

And of course, the boys argue about NFTs, including Kevin Smith's NFT sale of his upcoming movie and Gary Vee's NFT launch that includes a super conference. You know what they say about the first through the wall? They get bloody!

Raves include content's role moving to the CMO, and how SMS/texting might actually be a solid content distribution choice with examples from Taika and Great Jones.

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In this week's news, Neutrogena and Old Spice release the details on the creation of their internal brand studios. Is this Marriott all over again or something different? The answer is in promotion and audience building.

More acquisitions are in the works, as friend of #ThisOldMarketing Jay Acunzo sells his podcast. Are more to come?

Investors are getting into the content creation game by purchasing equity in shows and enewsletters, but is this good for creators?

And Robert (again) asks, is Clubhouse dead? Robert says yes while Joe thinks the jury is still out.

Rants and raves include Robert's Adobe rave (and big opportunity) while Joe rants about rented land and YouTube.

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Is the biggest part of a paid advertising budget with influencers now? The boys think not.

Science seems to think that the web can survive without advertising. If so, there are huge opportunities for ungated media sites. And...it really doesn't matter what browser you advertise on.

In social audio news, Discord launches their own Clubhouse. So will Facebook. And with Microsoft not buying Discord, who will?

Breaking news: Apple will offer revamped podcast subscriptions and help drive podcaster revenue. Good? Probably not for the creator middle class.

In rants and raves, Robert comments about Apple's big iOS launch, while Joe talks about being indispensable. In M&A news, the Seven Lakes Insider sells to The Pilot newspaper.

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DraftKings hires a chief media offer, kicking off their formal program for content marketing and into actually buying media companies.

The latest Pew social media research is out. What do we think? Facebook might be in trouble. Oh, and Americans hate social media but are addicted to it.

The boys also discuss a rather lengthy article about the staying power of Clubhouse. Can the thrill continue?

And mostly rants this week. Joe rants about YouTube's creator newsletter while Robert rants about IBM's new spinoff and P&G's Chinese data mystery.

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Well, there's a new Facebook data leak, and Facebook is blaming users instead of taking responsibility. The good news? Facebook is updating their feeds so you can have more of what you want. Will it matter? Probably not.

Clubhouse, the social audio unicorn, is now speculated at being worth $4 billion dollars. Robert thinks less. Joe thinks more.

Clubhouse is also adding creator payment options. Robert is still not happy.

Joe raves about Topps Trading Cards announcement that they are going public via SPAC, while Robert slams on The Drum for possibly the worst article ever written.

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I know, it's hard to believe, but Episode #1 of This Old Marketing still has not sold yet as an NFT. Maybe you forgot? You can bid on it here at Opensea.

The social audio battle continues this week, with Spotify buying social radio player Betty Labs, while LinkedIn is about to release their own version of Clubhouse.

And guess what? Medium is pivoting again. This time, they are looking at a Substack model.

Rants and raves include a rant from Joe about Substack's $650 million valuation, while Robert rants about marketers only focusing on numbers.

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In this episode, Verizon announces the launch of a robust Yahoo Plus. All we can say is "ouch."

Roku continues its Quibi-filled dominance by announcing a marketing services group that might actually work.

The New York Times puts down its virtual foot on reporter side gigs. The boys wonder how that happened.

And finally, MEL magazine from Dollar Shave Club goes belly up...but can you actually sell a custom magazine? I guess we will find out.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about Microsoft's decision to buy Discord, while Robert comments on NBC's new platform, NewsPassID and how the big three continue to steal almost all advertising dollars.

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The Oscars are back and guess what? Netflix absolutely crushed it (and yes, we called it years ago).

Facebook is launched a new creator model for writers and journalists that is truly seductive, and will work for inhibiting creators from developing out their own platforms.

In NFT land, Charmin has developed an NFT(P) that is sure to kill the entire NFT market (kill as in bad, not good).

In rants and raves, Joe raves about Google's career certificate program launch while Robert rants about AT&T and net neutrality.

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After a royal analysis courtesy of Robert, the boys dissect Disney's subscription program as they hit over 100 million paid subscribers worldwide.

The conversation pivots to NFTs (non-fungible tokens), as they discuss Seth Godin's latest blog post about the negatives of NFTs. Robert sides with Seth. Joe thinks Robert should take a ride to the old folks home. Regardless, creator business models are changing.

Oh, and as the conversation was happening, Beeple sold his NFT for over $60 million dollars.

Robert raves about Zapier buying Makerpad and rants about IAB's new plans. Joe rants and raves about event companies divesting their media properties.

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To kick off the show, Joe and Robert detail their "advanced" Clubhouse experience (likes and dislikes) and why it may have legs.

And did you check out the Tom Cruise deepfakes?

Roku buys Nielsen's Advanced Video property, and increases its chances to corner the personalized TV advertising market.

Axios details the ever-increasing amount of gambling properties getting into the content marketing game.

Twitter does a Twitch and plans to launch a "Super Follows" program, which will most likely integrate into Twitter Spaces.

And finally, Facebook launches a huge ad campaign against Apple's privacy restrictions. Can anyone say Philip Morris?

In rants and raves, Joe discusses Wall Street Bets move to decentralization and Kings of Leon's new NFT while Robert rants about Google's privacy bomb.

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In headline news, Facebook makes a deal with the Aussie press, doing exactly what we said they would do last week. At the same time, Facebook commits to $1 billion for the news industry. A generous gift or more of the same from Facebook?

Macy's media network is taking off to a tune of more than $35 million. Can their business model be saved? Robert and Joe believe the opportunities are great in number.

Print is back again, while the great ad tech consolidation is upon us.

Rants and raves include social money creator tokens from an Oregon-based band and the worldwide web is ending as we know it.

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This week Joe and Robert cover the big news that, after the passage of a media bargaining law, Facebook bans all media companies from its app. Shock abounds, with a number of sites that are "not" media companies being affected.

YouTube tries to be more like TikTok and Snap and launches a number of "short-video" strategies.

And news from the passion economy with the launch of Li Jin's Atelier Ventures, a $13 million fund to support content creators and content creator tech.

Rants and raves include Joe's take on non-fungible tokens (NFTs) and Robert's commentary on how tech companies are taking over higher education.

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It's our annual "rip apart the Super Bowl ads" show, which may not mean much since viewership sank to a 15-year low.

Twitter announced stellar earnings, including a possible subscription plan roll out. In addition, Twitter is getting aggressive with Spaces (their Clubhouse competitor). Facebook's getting into the mix as well. How much time does Clubhouse have? Will it survive?

Niche media companies (like Allrecipes) are all the rage. Even the New York Times is launching a newsletter for kids.

Rants and raves include how New York Times is doubling down on its email newsletter model, while the Atlantic and Salesforce partner on a Black-history project.

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Twitter was abuzz this week when Hubspot announced their purchase of newsletter/small-business media company the Hustle. Terms of the deal were not disclosed. That said, everyone is very happy (except tech companies and traditional media).

Clubhouse, now worth a billion dollars, says it's getting into the subscription game. Good idea? Maybe...but a better idea for Twitter.

The boys go in-depth on the future of social audio. Joe is high on the idea...Robert is meh at best.

Rants and raves includes Tim Cook's war on Facebook and how the Columbia Journalism Review is uber bias.

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The big news of the week was Twitter buying Revue, a Substack competitor that launches Twitter into the subscription business.

What could save or kill the media business? SPACs! Media SPACs are off to a roaring start for 2021, with no end in sight.

Rolling Stone does a Forbes and starts a pay-to-play "culture" council, further destroying the once-great media brand, while Clubhouse becomes a Unicorn and is the big social media craze of the year (so far).

Rants and raves include Robert's rave about a Google Analytics competitor while Joe raves about wallstreetbets taking on Wall Street.

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Forbes announced the launch of their own version of Substack, a paid newsletter program driven by independent writers.

As the war for content creators heats up, rumors swell around Apple launching a podcast-plus subscription program to compete with Spotify for exclusive (and walled off) audio content.

And as the fight for creators continues, media companies begin to decide who owns the RSS feed as media consumption hits over 70 hours per week in the United States.

Robert rants about a Martech announcement that means absolutely nothing, while Joe raves about Disney's acquisition strategy and Netflix investing $20 billion in content.

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This week on This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert cover Amazon taking down Parler. Does it tell us anything about free speech?

And, while that was happening, someone scraped all Parler's data.

The run on music archives continues, with OneRepublic's Ryan Tedder getting a boat load of cash for songs we've never heard.

How does the media rebound? By becoming human again of course.

Axios launched a 10k subscription product to help brands communicate better internally. They may not have priced it high enough.

And as a cake topper, over 1,000 brands unknowingly ran ads against articles promoting conspiracy theories. We are shocked.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about Mr Beast's origin story, while Robert gushes over Edelman's Trust Barometer.

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In episode 253 of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert kick off the show with Roku's possible purchase of Quibi content (yes, that Quibi). Roku, whose stock has appreciated over 1,000 percent in just a few years, is taking its playbook directly from the Netflix content model.

There is a podcasting gold rush and it looks like it may turn out to be a two-company party (Amazon vs. Spotify). But the opportunity isn't just podcasting, but all audio content. 2021 may be the year of text to audio.

Media and content purchases went crazy this week, with MARQUE buying Closet Full of Cash, Sykes buying The Penny Hoarder, and Wyndham Destinations buying Travel + Leisure. Is this just the start? Uh...short answer is yes.

Rants and raves include a movement from monthly to quarterly subscriptions and Joe's call for another look at print media. Robert discusses the implications of the new Clubhouse social media app and the case for two spaces after a period.

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This Old Marketing will never be the same. This episode is taken over by Jay Acunzo, who goes inside how the podcast is made, including the early days, the process and the minimal success (and major failures) of Pulizzi and Rose.

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In this episode, the FTC sues Facebook for illegal monopolization. Thanks Captain Obvious!

For decades, as newspapers declined, local news suffered. The University of Kansas found a solution, but Joe and Robert feel corporate dollars could be the real savior.

KFC launches a Lifetime mini-movie starring Mario Lopez. Joe and Robert simply can't wait to see it.

Substack is on fire! More and more journalists and reporters are flocking to the email subscription platform. Is this a good thing?

A 2020 "year in review" finds that audio wins, paid subscription busted out, and email remains the first-party data champ.

Robert raves about Bob Dylan's $300 million dollar content sale and comments on Frameworks and Flywheels. Joe rants about Polska Press being purchased by an organization owned by the state.

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In this special Turkey Day episode, Joe and Robert cover some touchy brand communication issues, including how some brands like Oreo and Snickers are having fun with Twitter's "disputed claims."

In addition, the boys spend plenty of time talking about how "the vid" has accelerated major changes in content marketing and e-commerce media.

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Morning Brew sells its email subscription juggernaut for $75 million, building the email newsletter model for all the follow.

The New York Times digital subscription business goes boom boom, while text-to-speech is the next big thing you've never "heard" of.

And Beyonce decides to form a huge content partnership with Peloton instead of being interviewed on the This Old Marketing podcast.

Robert raves about Philip Kotler's new blog and Adobe acquiring WorkFront. Joe raves about Netflix starting a programmed channel and how Twitch is not just for gamers anymore.

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Yes, the big marketing predictions episode if finally here.

Joe and Robert answer:

- What will happen to the martech industry?

- What big names will be bought and sold in 2021?

- Who wins in content marketing...and who loses?

- What does the future of in-person events look like?

And don't worry...they cover the news as well...with a (probably final) Quibi update, as well as a great case study from The Dodo.

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The boys kick off the show with highlights from the just finished Content Marketing World 2020.

The streaming wars have begun. Disney has committed to it. Amazon and Apple are dabbling in it. But Netflix owns it. An AMC purchase (who might run out of cash by the end of the year) could be how it levels up.

In other news, Facebook is the most distrusted social media platform (go figure), and Yelp adds a new "racist behavior exists here" component (which could be good but could also go wildly wrong).

Robert has a new Quibi update (it's not good for Quibi) and raves (and rants) about Kraft's new commercial.

Joe raves about Amazon's new print catalog and believes Juggernaut has it figured out when it comes to email newsletters.

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In this very special episode, Joe and Robert talk about Content Marketing World's 10 year anniversary, the changes in content marketing, and what should happen to the industry.

News stories include TikTok's sale. Will it go through and when will that be? In addition, it looks like Google is going to bail out the entire publishing industry.

And, of course, the boys discuss who is going to win the Cowboys/Browns game and what's on the line.

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The TikTok/Oracle deal comes under scrutiny, but both Joe and Robert think the deal with absolutely go through, especially while TikTok's numbers continue to grow.

Facebook is getting in the email marketing business. Will they buy a business or consumer-side email marketing company, or go organic?

The Taboola/Outbrain deal is off the table. The boys discuss why this happened and what's the future for the tech.

And why are Google results always so old? Ryan Law discusses why businesses need to look at the second-mover advantage of search results.

In rants and raves, Joe applauds the new Accidentally Wes Anderson book, while Robert laments zero-party data.

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Facebook makes an announcement about curbing political ads, but still has a major problem with false organic content, as Russia again infiltrates the site.

LEGO leverages user-generated content as new product development, while CVS launches a new media network.

In rants and raves, Adweek buys Target Marketing and Publishing Executive, Facebook's CMO resigns to create more diversity, and Mattress Firm launches Sleep.com.

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Major media companies from around the United States are divesting their real estate properties to right-size their business models. Washington Post pushes forward into native advertising territory as traditional advertising falters. Audio is even bigger than we thought it would be, while creators at TikTok don't understand that they built their homes on rented land, and are now searching for a way out.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about Twinsthenewtrend and their viral video (and video strategy) behind "In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins. Robert applauds High Times for buying up dispensaries in California (another Content Inc. model).

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First, watch the Nike ad if you haven't. Required watching.

TikTok was in the news this week, with a crazy deal in progress with Microsoft.

In other news, Industry Dive purchased Newscred's content marketing studio business, while Digiday finds that branded content and native advertising spending is on a downward trend. Freightwaves media business has taken off and Buzzfeed now sells products (of course they do).

Robert has another Quibi update and comments on Tom Goodwin's firing from Publicis. Joe loves the launch of The 19th, and comments about the closing of Folio: magazine.

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While Coca-Cola begins killing zombie brands in favor of old standbys, companies like The New York Times are diversifying like crazy. Who's right?

Carnage is hitting digital media during the pandemic, affecting publishers just when they started to turn the corner, while content marketing, according to ANA research, is beginning to boom.

Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Adam Alter on recombination. Robert raves on Calm's new meditation app, and comments about Google's new cookie policy.

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Facebook was under fire this week for possibly spreading hate speech and misinformation (what's new?). Some people think Zuckerberg should be out.

At the same time, TikTok may possibly be forced out of the United States as concern of Chinese data tampering persists.

In other news, Lululemon buys Mirror in a content/technology deal that seemed almost too cheap to pass up.

And when did Substack get so big? Could it be the next bubble?

Rants and raves include a #Quibi update (doesn't look good) with Project M buying The Hard Times and Queen teaches about audience development.

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Almost all physical events are canceled for 2020. This means there will be a lot of innovation in the virtual events space. This also means a huge opportunity for a large tech brand to become the Netflix for business video content.

The Girl Scouts are launching a new content brand called CircleAround. Both Joe and Robert love the idea, but the plan has some major flaws.

Some publisher content studios are set up to fail, while Facebook faces a serious boycott to its services.

In rants and raves, Robert's Quibi update...plus a rave about Apple's privacy policy. Joe has a commentary on how he almost gave up on his not-for-profit foundation (but didn't).

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Continuing the acquisition movement, Adweek was purchased by Shamrock Capital Advisors. More to come? The boys will answer.

Microsoft lays of 50 journalists, instead opting to use "computer robots." Robert reviews what journalists need to do now to protect their jobs.

And Nic Carter from Coindesk details a fascinating take on perhaps, in the future, you'll be able to lay claim to your social media profile.

Robert provides a valuable Quibi update and rants on yet another AdAge article. Joe spends his time remembering the great Don Schultz, may he rest in peace.

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Media company Team Whistle buys production company/agency Tiny Horse, further showing that revenue diversification is king in media and content marketing today.

Joe Rogan signs with Spotify and Joe and Robert chiming in on who is the real winner.

The White House is putting the smackdown on Twitter and social media regarding Twitter's labeling of the President's tweets, while Zuckerberg keeps making the wrong decisions for Facebook.

Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Sam Harris regarding the destruction of the advertising model and rants about how TV advertisers can't keep an agreement. Robert has a Quibi update, comments about Google's news initiative with McClatchy and raves about a roofing company doing the weather.

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The New York Times reports that big tech such as Facebook and Google should pay media companies reparations for lost revenue. Joe and Robert think differently. The media business continues to kill itself due to a short-sighted revenue strategy.

In other news, the Financial Times launches a mix group for subscription but doesn't invite any product brands, while thought leadership is everything.

Robert's rants and raves include a Quibi update and that new marketing really isn't new, while Joe discusses an interview with the IAB and the new Riot Games Launch.

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What do marketers do while we wait for a turnaround?

Cosmo magazine details a number of key content marketing tactics that should be used by every enterprise, while Orbit Media offers 26 marketing ideas you could use now to get your house in order.

Vayner Media continues an acquisition trend and there is a sale on Facebook ads.

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In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Robert and Joe discuss why marketers need to aggressively invest in marketing now and not cut back.

In other news, Joe Biden and team (finally) launch an enewsletter and podcast program, while a few airlines announce the suspension of their print onboard magazines in response to the coronavirus.

Then the boys spend many fruitless minutes discussing the launch of new content platform Quibi and what that means for humankind.

In rants and raves, Robert raves about the opportunity in everything and Some Good News with John Krasinski, while Joe discusses the rather large opportunity in print media.

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In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss how the coronavirus COVID-19 is impacting media companies, specifically local media. Frankly, can they survive? What will be the model that replaces them?

In other news, what can enterprise brands learn from the marketing of YouTube sensation Jo-Jo Siwa? Media and brand publishing partnerships are all the rage, while the CMO of Anheuser-Busch goes full content marketing.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum and Robert comments on consumer trust in digital marketing.

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In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss some big opportunities for marketers, especially in the acquisition space.

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Joe and Robert discuss a corona virus (COVID-19) week of news in marketing, trying to make sense of what's next.

Corona virus coverage gives major publishers a huge lift in traffic, bringing in pay-wall and advertising questions.

In other news, a strange report claimed that now is the time for Apple to buy Disney. Of course, Robert is against, while Joe is the biggest cheerleader for the deal.

Facebook had all sorts of issues with its AI-powered SPAM engine, while Ford completely changes it's advertising campaigns in response to COVID-19. Finally, the boys discuss why now may be the greatest moment ever for content marketing.

In rants and raves, Joe comments about how now is a truly defining moment for marketing, while Robert discusses the future and opportunity in virtual events.

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In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss the new reality in front of marketers and what we, as marketers, need to be focusing on today.

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For episode #229 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert lead off with a worthy rant on AdAge's addition of a "content marketing" awards category, which really isn't content marketing at all.

Both Mailchimp and Salesforce purchase media properties, further proving that the boys' prediction from the past is coming true - corporate brands are and will continue to buy traditional media assets.

In other news, former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick launches his one publishing venture. The jury is out on whether this is actually a real thing or not.

In rants and raves, Robert rants about the flawed research on the coronavirus that is affecting Corona beer, while Joe raves about Jonah Berger's "The Catalyst" and rants about Audible production.

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In episode #228 of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert kick off the show with commentary on Burger King's new "moldy burger" campaign.

Facebook hires Reuters to do fact checking, and the boys argue about the real strategy behind the move.

More and more "advertisers" are buying media companies and one article gives a detailed history of the missed opportunity (by both marketers and media companies).

Catalogs are back again, while the Peloton "wife" commercial didn't hurt business like so many prognosticators thought.

In rants and raves, Robert details why IKEA keeps winning and shares an important New York Times article on the importance of Journalism. Joe shares new research on the "State of Writing" and its impact on all marketers and communicators.

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On episode #227 of PNR's This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert dissect the best and worst super bowl ads of 2020.

In other news, the creation of less content is actually a winning strategy of successful online publishers, while Warren Buffett leaves the newspaper media industry...or does he?

There were a slew of M&A deals over the past few weeks, including Barstool Sports and Spotify gobbling up "The Ringer."

In rants and raves, Joe raves about Ray Dalio's Principles, and shares one of the oldest content marketing examples ever. Robert raves about John Kotter's A Sense of Urgency and discusses the future of content activism.

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In episode 226 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert dissect an intriguing report by the World Economic Forum on the future of jobs. In it, the WEF predict that sales, marketing and content jobs will be among the most plentiful.

In other news, the death of the cookie (as declared by Google) is big news for advertisers, publishers and content marketers. Who will win? (Joe and Robert tell you)

Finally, the boys break down the success of new media companies turning profitable, and what marketers can learn.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about the Unauthorized Biography Series and Loserthink by Scott Adams. Robert then talks in detail about the life and death of Clayton Christensen.

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In episode #225 (the Happy New Year episode) of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert look at the advertising industry, and whether a "move" away from smartphone usage will hurt digital ads (uh, not really).

Facebook says it will ban artificial intelligence "deepfakes," but will it make a difference since Facebook isn't changing its policy on cheapfakes or shallowfakes?

The annual Consumer Electronics Show (CES) happened last week. Joe and Robert discuss some of the main questions from the CES show.

And finally, Coca-Cola reverted back to having the CMO role. Robert is happy, but Joe thinks it's all show and no bite.

In rants and raves, Joe covers an ANA article about B2B Content Marketing while Robert raves about Buzzfeed's new business model.

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Yes! It's the annual #ThisOldMarketing predictions episode.

This year, Robert and Joe bring you eight amazing and infallible marketing predictions that are sure to be wrong (but fun nonetheless).

This year's marketing predictions include:

1. Less Content and Simplicity to Drive Marketing Strategy in 2020 (Joe).
2. Brand Journalism (or Content Marketing) is pushed forward by Social Corporate Responsibility (SCR) efforts (Robert).
3. The drop in print has stopped. 2020 will see the resurgence of print media led by enterprise brands (Joe). Support article on print books here.
4. Ad Tech takes a crippling hit in 2020 (Robert).
5. Microsoft will launch their own "Disney+" for business-to-business markets (Joe).
6. AppleTV Plus will die (Joe, but Robert disagrees).
7. Deepfakes take over the 2020 election process (Joe).
8. Big agencies start to break up after large consolidation run (Robert).

Robert's Rave - Brand-backed media gets another look.

Joe's Rave - Essentialism by Greg McKeown

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In this episode #223 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert go inside Peloton...discussing the ad, the aftermath and what might happen to the brand in the future. Robert believes many mistakes were made, but the public's reaction was a pure over-reaction. Joe thinks that we can't judge the outcome until the next quarter's results are in.

In other news, the boys dissect the #SubscribeSunday program from Boston Globe, and how brands can use both an "event" and a collaborative effort to launch and grow content marketing initiatives.

Finally, Joe and Robert discuss the huge opportunities and challenges for brands who want to acquire distressed media assets.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about Straight No Chaser while Robert rants on California's upcoming privacy law (CCPA), with a helpful infographic from Ruth Carter on how to comply with CCPA.

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In this very special #222 bonus episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert take requests from Twitter. What could go wrong?

Alberto Gomez (@albermoire) asked Joe and Robert about their biggest failures. Since the boys only had an hour, they decided to cover just a few of the many, many failures in their young lives.

Doug Kessler (@DougKessler) asked about "what's next?" Joe covered voice and print. Robert covered drastic changes in governance. Both discussed the evolution of social media, with particular focus on Sacha Baron Cohen's recent ADL speech.

In rants and raves, Joe ranted about YouTube's FTC compliance system, while Robert discussed gratitude.

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In episode 221 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert unpack Disney's launch of Disney+, including first-day tech issues, adding 10 million users, and a huge stock market push to record levels.

Further into the show, Robert unpacks the current marketing bubble: online advertising (H/T @karlyeh721), and how everything can be proven to work if you only use part of the data. Joe continues on into social media news: Facebook is found to be "secretly" using the iPhone camera while their app is open and Instagram announces they won't be showing the like count on posts any longer.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about His Dark Materials amazing usage of outdoor media and provides comment on how Generation Z might save print. Robert rants about Sharethrough's EU office closing and provides commentary on Nielsen's company split.

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In episode 220 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the bold move by Twitter, who announced they will remove political ads from their platform in a few weeks. Robert believes this was a good call, and that Twitter may not resume service in that area. Joe believes that Twitter completely dropped the ball, and they will resume service (and charge a premium) in a few months. Both believe the move was done primarily for public relations purposes.

In other news, Google buys wearables-maker Fitbit, and also looks at acquiring TikTok rival Firework. Joe and Robert also review Orbit Media's latest research on blogging, and what really works in textual media today.

In rants and raves, Joe applauds Elon University's approach to the Common App, while Robert rants about the talk around the demise of the CMO, and raves about how GDPR-compliant companies are winning (h/t @thanybethanybe).

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In episode 219 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert start by discussing the controversy surrounding the NBA and China. Was the NBA correct in how they dealt with an employee tweet (we say no)? How should a large global brand deal with employee social media?

Other news was dominated by government regulations. First, the boys unpack California Assembly Bill 5 (AB5) and what it means for hiring freelance content creators. Second, Joe and Robert discuss California's Privacy Act, which seems to be the start of how dozens of states are dealing with online privacy concerns...and...are the new regulations good or bad news for marketers and content creators?

Robert's raves include TCG buying a majority stake in Food52 and Airbnb buying Atlas Obscura. Joe's raves include Barstool Sports generating over $1 million selling vodka and his experience in New Orleans at three particular establishments that all marketers can learn from.

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Episode #218 of #ThisOldMarketing focuses on the death of advertising. Is it really a thing? Or perhaps an evolution to a new form and function? What would a future with no advertising look like?

In other news, the Washington Post begins licensing its Content Management System to large brands, paving the way for Jeff Bezos's (Amazon's) dominance over yet another category.

An important stat: 49% of Google searches end up in zero clicks, and Google's strategy will only end up increasing this number. Could search engine optimization die along with advertising?

Raves include how Red Bull Media House started and rants include web contact forms, while Robert goes into detail on the failure of written-content projects from brands.

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In episode #217 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert first discuss Disney CEO Bob Iger's statement that if Steve Jobs were still alive, Apple and Disney would be one company.

Let's all just pause right to ponder that possibility.

Then the boys dissect the new Recur network from ProfitWell...discussing the good, the bad and the ugly. Is it smart to launch 12 shows at the same time or should ProfitWell do one thing great and move on to the next one?

In other news, Joe unpacks how Twitch.tv (owned by Amazon) took over streaming legend Ninja's platform without asking, "accidentally" showing porn. After that, 2012 called and wanted it's "Marriott is now a media company" article back (Robert points out everything wrong and right about this article).

In rants and raves, Joe is disgusted about Audible and how it's impossible to just launch an audiobook only, and applauds Freightwaves, an amazing content marketing example.

Robert raves Hasbro's purchase of Death Row Records and rants about IKEA's Slow TV.

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In episode 216 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the trend that more and more searches on mobile and desktop end without a click. In the future will the website, as we know it, cease to exist?

In other news, the boys elaborate on how audio content and podcasts still may be the best opportunity for building audiences, while both share their take on Google's new privacy stance and why it doesn't help any individual or company except for Google.

Rants and raves include a take on Cleveland Clinic's blog revenue strategy and, of course, a long discussion about Popeye's new chicken sandwich.

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In episode 215 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss Twitter's decision to ban "state-run" media and how this will, effectively, lead to a huge change in how content is published on social media. Social media sites, like Facebook and YouTube, know their biggest liability is the created content on their platform. We are just now seeing the beginning days of the end of social media as we know it.

In other news, Tumblr sells for $3 million (down from $1.1 billion), marketing research shows that marketers think pretty highly of themselves, and Amazon's publishing juggernaut is even bigger than you think.

In rants and raves, Joe discovers that "fake news" is rampant in Amazon's books and nobody knows it, while Robert reviews an article that takes #ThisOldMarketing episode 214 to task on brands buying newspapers and the death of journalism.

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In episode 214 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the death of journalism (through newspaper media) and how brands are missing an opportunity by not purchasing more newspaper properties.

Procter & Gamble (P&G) is growing like crazy but spending less on advertising than ever before. The boys think they know the reason, including help from Home Made Simple.

More B2B and B2C brands are investing in print magazines, including the likes of REI and Goose Island. Opportunity?

And FIPP suggests that future growth lies in niche media and underserved international populations.

In rants and raves, Joe raves iQiyi's push into Chinese vertical dramas and believes that Stanford's M&A program is something brand marketers and CMO's need to pay attention to. Hint: Acquiring content brands instead of starting them fresh. Robert thinks that the move away from the CMO is like moving deck chairs (with kudos to this Ian Truscott post).

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In episode 213 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the death of influencer marketing, which isn't dead at all...just changing.

Two big brands, Outdoor Voice and Staples, launch content brands The Recreationalist and Worklife. The opportunities in voice marketing have never been better. Audiobooks are growing at 25 percent and Alexa devices count more than 100 million, yet there are very few Alexa Skills, opening a content gap.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about the New York Times enewsletter program, while Robert comments about why MarTech as marketing is a scary proposition.

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After 577 days #This Old Marketing, with author/entrepreneur Joe Pulizzi and strategist Robert Rose, returns in a blaze of glory.

Episode 212 leads with a detailed discussion of subscription fatigue and what we as marketers and consumers need to do about it (https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/336981/publishers-face-another-challenge-subscription-f.html).

Then the boys go in-depth about the opportunities in print media (https://whatsnewinpublishing.com/2019/07/opinion-why-digitally-native-brands-are-turning-to-print/) and the increasingly complex role of the CMO (https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/marketing-and-sales/our-insights/how-to-unlock-marketing-led-growth-data-creativity-and-credibility).

The news concludes with a heated discussion about brand purpose (check out https://martechseries.com/sales-marketing/programmatic-buying/turning-point-ad-industry-kfc-unilever-deloitte-top-marketers-reflect-cannes-lions/ as well as this amazing Steve Jobs' speech from 1997 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8dUExqjNog).

The show concludes with Robert's rave about B2B's taking back their websites (https://velocitypartners.com/blog/b2b-marketers-take-back-your-website/) and his rant on cause marketing (https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/cause-marketing-isnt-working-for-young-people/). Joe raves about Raspberry Pi's print magazines purchase (https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/dennis-publishing-sells-off-two-magazines-to-computer-manufacturer-raspberry-pi-and-looks-to-shift-third-title/) and rants about Mailchimp presents (https://mailchimp.com/presents/).

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The final episode of This Old Marketing includes answering listener questions on the future of content marketing, Joe and Robert asking each other their own questions, and a few other surprises along the way. 

It's been an amazing ride.  Thank you for making it possible.

#ThisOldMarketing

In this final regular episode of This Old Marketing, Robert and Joe discuss which company will buy Fox, and whether Apple will ever buy Disney. Something is increasingly disturbing about web content, while media companies rush into the agency services business.  Rants and raves include net neutrality and audio content. The final TOM example: This Old Marketing.

This week's story links:

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Robert and Joe unpack the latest content marketing spending research and whether or not we can actually believe it. Marketing predictions are back again, while the boys discuss the success or failure of Casper's content brand Van Winkle's. Rants and raves include building an audience, Snapchat, and the art of questioning. This week's TOM example: Maxwell House Haggadah.

This week's story links:

QUICK HITS

Content Marketing Industry Will Be Worth $412 Billion Following a Four Year Growth Spurt
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/11/06/content-marketing-industry-be-worth-412bn-2021-following-four-year-growth-spurt?

2018 Marketing Predictions From The C-Suite
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimberlywhitler/2017/11/01/2018-marketing-predictions-from-the-c-suite/#16806e0e4c91

In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss the recent reader revenue moves from both CNN and the Guardian, while Facebook may or may not have anything to fear from ad blockers. In other news, the boys discuss whether content marketing is in crisis...or perhaps...we see its biggest opportunity to come. Rants and raves include more audience building and whether the flight to video could actually be a bad thing for some publishers. This week's TOM example: Electric Boat Company.

This week's story links:

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe makes a big announcement about his future and the future of the podcast, while the future of advertising isn't quite settled. LinkedIn has a huge opportunity with original content but might not take it and the latest blogging research says that longer posts are better. Rants and raves include the power of audience and another Mumbrella post. This week's TOM example: Lloyd's List.

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the new initiative from three marketing associations that put the blame for bad online advertising directly on the shoulders of publishers (excuse me). In other news, media companies still rank first for loyalty, but these aren't the media companies you were looking for. Rants and raves include Nielsen's bid at measuring Netflix and one-hit wonders and what we can learn from them. This week's TOM: Polyface Farms.

This week's story links:

Content Marketing Master Classes at https://www.contentmarketingconf.com/

Any listener that tweets using #thisoldmarketing now through October 28 will be entered into a drawing to win an annual Ahrefs account plus a signed copy of Joe and Robert’s new book, Killing Marketing. 

In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss the Brandwatch/Buzzsumo acquisition, while Snapchat adds location-based services. Mercedes launches their own "killing marketing" model for their integrated content brands, and there is one article format that rises above them all. Rants and raves include a new marketing model and transparency. This week's TOM: Alcoa.

This week's story links:

Content Marketing World videos at http://cmi.media/video17 

Content Marketing Master Classes at https://www.contentmarketingconf.com/

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss Google's olive branch to publishers and why it may not mean what we think it means. Amazon gets into the advertising business, while Blue Apron doubles down on podcasting. Rants and raves include Lloyds Bank doubling down on content marketing and Amazon reminds us that we need to reflect on our business models.  This week's TOM example: The Points Guy.

This week's story links:

Content Marketing World videos at http://cmi.media/video17 

Content Marketing Master Classes at https://www.contentmarketingconf.com/

Any listener that tweets using #thisoldmarketing now through October 28 will be entered into a drawing to win an annual Ahrefs account plus a signed copy of Joe and Robert’s new book, Killing Marketing. 

In this episode of This Old Marketing the boys discuss the week that was Advertising Week. Google and Amazon begin the war to end all wars, while Twitter is wasting everyone's time going to 280 characters.  Rants and raves include Time's new membership model and Nielsen ratings. This week's TOM example: Chagrin Falls Film Festival.

This week's story links:

Content Marketing World videos at http://cmi.media/video17 

Content Marketing Master Classes at https://www.contentmarketingconf.com/

Any listener that tweets using #thisoldmarketing now through October 28 will be entered into a drawing to win an annual Ahrefs account plus a signed copy of Joe and Robert’s new book, Killing Marketing. 

THIS OLD MARKETING - Chagrin Falls Film Festival

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/10/chagrin_documentary_film_festi_1.html

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Google buys HTC, talent is drying up in advertising, and the Mayo Clinic figures out how to dominate Alexa's voice search results. Rants and raves include predictive analytics and this week's This Old Marketing example is full of Fluff.

This week's story links:

SPONSOR: AHrefs

Any listener that tweets using #thisoldmarketing between the dates of September 30 through October 28 will be entered into a drawing to win an annual Ahrefs account plus a signed copy of Joe and Robert’s new book, Killing Marketing. One randomly selected participant will be drawn each week; four winners in total.

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss Apple's new browser settings that have the advertising associations crying wolf. Google kills their "first click free" setting for all pay walls and Rolling Stone gets put up for sale. Rants and raves include the fall of bundled television and the Ohio Lottery. This week's TOM example: Fearless Girl.

OPENING SPONSOR - WIDEN and the Creative Workflow Workbook. Download at http://cmi.media/pnr201b

A very special 200th anniversary show featuring some clips from the past and how the show made it this far (we really can't believe it). After a walk down memory lane, Joe and Robert focus on the orange week that was Content Marketing World and all the joyful festivities on audience building. In other news, the boys review the latest CMO trend findings while Facebook begins a billion-dollar push into original content.  Rants and raves include Facebook metrics, Equifax and M&A is getting real. This week's TOM example: The Rock Island Line.

OPENING SPONSOR - WIDEN and the Creative Workflow Workbook. Download at http://cmi.media/pnr200b

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Thank you to all our listeners for making #200 so special!

In this pre-Content Marketing World episode, Joe and Robert discuss the possibility of Google buying Marketo, and why the big money will continue to go to Marketing Tech (and away from Advertising Tech). Trade Desk tries to fight the ad fraud battle, and the boys believe this is one big waste of time. Rants and raves include Rob Scallon and Taylor Swift. This week's TOM example: Warsaw, Indiana.

OPENING SPONSOR - WIDEN and the Creative Workflow Workbook. Download at http://cmi.media/pnr199b

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the latest quarterly results from WPP and how the slowing of advertising could mark something more than a cyclical blip. Add to that, Google begins to reimburse clients and agencies for ad fraud...but is it enough? The Washington Post adds artificial intelligence to native and Goop gets leveled by Truth in Advertising. Rants and raves include Australia (yes, the entire continent) and U-Haul Trucks. This week's TOM example - CTO Advisor. 

This week's story links:

Opening Sponsor

WIDEN and the Creative Workflow Workbook. Download at http://cmi.media/pnr198b

This week, Joe and Robert cover Apple's $1 billion dollar investment in original content...plus the rise and fall of fidget spinners and newsjackers on the eclipse. Is Facebook failing (or is the research behind it?) and do publishers realize how much their business model is actually changing?  Rants and raves include Zillow's book on real estate and Harvard Business Review. This week's TOM example: AAHA Magazine.

This week's links:

QUICK HITS

Apple To Spend $1Billion On original TV Shows For Its Streaming Platform
https://techdigg.com/2017/08/16/apple-to-spend-1-billion-on-original-tv-shows-for-its-streaming-platform/

In this episode, Facebook launches YouTube competitor Watch, while Netflix begins a buying spree for content brands. Disney pulls its content from Netflix and Google may possibly still buy Snap. In other news, Quartz has figured out how to deliver real results for branded content and email subscription has never been more important.  Rants and raves include Deadpool and Time Inc. This week's TOM example: J. Walter Thompson.

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In the news this week: Apple hits record earnings, Google launches new SnapChat-like ad format, and AI bots begin to create their own language. Detailed analysis includes the marketing opportunity behind long-form content, while Hasbro's deal with Lions Gate goes south.  Rants and raves include Stranger Things and the Facebook/Google duopoly.  This week's This Old Marketing example: TheStreet.com and Jim Cramer.

Story links:

QUICK HITS

Apple Soars After Resilient iPhone Demand
http://adage.com/article/digital/apple-soars-record-signaling-resilient-iphone-demand/310001/

Google Is Developing Tech for SnapChat Like Media Content
https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-is-developing-technology-for-snapchat-like-media-content-1501868688

In this new-look episode, Joe and Robert cover Lauren Jobs and her purchase of The Atlantic, Facebook's earnings release and what P&G did with $140 million dollars in marketing. The boys then go in-depth on how Hearst is experimenting with ecommerce and why Buzzfeed is launching a skillet for sale.  Rants and raves include media buying and a content marketing swindle.  This week's TOM: General Electric.

This week's story links:

The boys take aim at Amazon's new social platform Spark (thumbs down), Google's news feed (thumbs up) and Facebook's addition of branded sub-groups (jury's still out). Rants and raves include building something instead of measuring, and the craze to focus on technology over strategy.  This week's This Old Marketing example: Emily McDowell Cards.

This week's story links:

Joe and Robert cover why a number of publishers are cutting their own advertising and how Fender is taking a page from "Killing Marketing" and developing their own guitar lessons. Joe cuts in early for a rant about Gary V's latest post and why it's bad advice for marketers. Robert then rants about programmatic and raves about Deloitte. This week's TOM example: UBS.

This week's story links:

THIS OLD MARKETING - UBS

https://www.unlimited.world/
https://www.marketingweek.com/2017/07/11/reaching-purpose-driven-millionaires/

It's a miracle! In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert actually arrive at a probable solution to Facebook's fake news problem. If only Mr. Zuckerberg were listening.  In other news, the boys discuss research around artificial intelligence and marketing, and how everyone thinks they know but they really don't know.  Rants and raves include agency changes and more AI. This week's TOM example: The US Postal Service.

This week's story links:

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the state of digital advertising based on multiple reactions from the Cannes Advertising Awards in France. In other news, yet another article discusses loathing the term content marketing. Needless to say, Joe and Robert have staunch opinions on the matter.  Rants and raves include CPA Australia and why content creators are crazy. This week's This Old Marketing: Botticelli. 

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In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert detail how they write, manage their day, search for content ideas, create PowerPoint presentations and much more. The boys also include some predictions for the last part of the year, (including a SnapChat explosion at Cannes) as well as a TOM from Kawasaki.

This week's show links:

SPONSOR - GoToWebinar and their eBook "Why Webinars Help Marketers Win: Start Rocking Your Lead Gen with Webinars". Download it now at http://cmi.media/pnr189

TOM - Kawasaki and Good Times magazine
https://rideapart.com/articles/recalling-kawasakis-good-times-magazine

This Old Marketing this week includes an overview of the NerdWallet model, and how they went from zero to over $500 million in revenues through a content-first approach. The New York Times is killing it with email newsletters, while the new marketing opportunities are on retention and loyalty.  Rants and raves include net neutrality and YouTube's ad crisis.  This week's TOM example: Mobil.

This week's story links:

Top of the Show Sponsor: VideoBlocks/AudioBlocks Bundle Package for $149 - http://cmi.media/pnr188b

Some see Google's ad-blocking plan as a pure goodness for those who want a better digital experience. Others see this as a long-term plan that keeps Google's monopoly in place. Discuss... In other news, Anheuser-Busch buys an online community and the craft brewing industry goes crazy. Rants and raves include authenticity and licensing revenue. This week's TOM example: McKinsey Quarterly.

This week's story links:

Top of the Show Sponsor: VideoBlocks/AudioBlocks Bundle Package for $149 - http://cmi.media/pnr187b

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert dissect Mary Meeker's Annual Internet Trends report...and guess what? It actually mentions content marketing this year. Woo hoo! In other news, Amazon, Netflix and Google continue to gobble up content opportunities. Rants and raves include no wasted opportunities. This week's TOM example: Land Rover.

This week's show links:

Top of the Show Sponsor: VideoBlocks/AudioBlocks Bundle Package for $149 - http://cmi.media/pnr186b

Joe and Robert review the top US Media Trends, which include local newspapers, the future of television, and how Facebook is just getting started. In other news, Edison Research finds that Facebook is indeed dominating the smartphone, while there still might be opportunities in podcasting.  Rants and raves include last-click attribution and Walkers Crisps. This week's TOM example: Williams Sonoma.

This week's story links:

Top of the Show Sponsor: VideoBlocks/AudioBlocks Bundle Package for $149 - http://cmi.media/pnr185b

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss why (and if) corporate storytelling is fading and, if so, what are the solutions. The publisher is still a critical position and Conde Naste launches eCommerce boxes. Rants and raves include McDonald's and Daddy hair care.  This week's TOM example: Jan van der Heijden.

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In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the latest financial report from Snapchat and how Snap needs to focus on their targeted audience and revenue per user. Then, in a Gartner article, the boys discuss that inside the next decade, content marketing will be so embedded into marketing that it will lose its name. Rants and raves include Wendy's chicken nuggets and the Vivendi/Havas merger. This week's TOM example: United Feature Syndicate.

This week's story links:

Snap Is Losing Twice As Much Money This Year As Last
https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/10/15610094/snap-snapchat-q1-2017-earnings-report-stock-plummets

Marketing Content or Content Marketing
http://blogs.gartner.com/kirsten-newbold-knipp/2017/04/26/marketing-content-content-marketing/

The CMO Role Is Shifting in 2017
http://www.marketingdive.com/news/the-cmo-role-is-shifting-in-2017/441923/

SHOW SPONSOR - BRIGHTCOVE

Download “The Science of Social Video” Now - http://cmi.media/pnr183

RANTS AND RAVES

http://www.marketingdive.com/news/why-consultancies-arent-upending-the-agency-client-model-just-yet/441298/

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/05/12/vivendi-havas-merger-will-conflict-interest-concerns-plague-the-deal

http://www.marketingdive.com/news/wendys-fan-shatters-twitter-record-in-quest-for-chicken-nuggets/442373/

https://www.themediabriefing.com/article/pivoting-without-missing-the-point

THIS OLD MARKETING - United Feature Syndicate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Media

In this episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert kick off the show with old-time manufacturer Whirlpool buying recipe media site Yummly (What does this means for brands of all sizes?). In other news, Google and Facebook need to take more responsibility for their content as true media companies, and Forrester proclaims that the end of advertising is near.  Rants and raves include John Green and Airbnb. This week's This Old Marketing example: UnitedHealthcare.

This week's story links:

WhirlPool Acquires Yummly
https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/04/whirlpool-acquires-yummly-the-recipe-search-engine-last-valued-at-100m/

Time Facebook And Google Accept They Are Publishers With Responsibilities
https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/300302/time-facebook-and-google-accept-they-are-publisher.html?edition=102698

Forrester Sees Advertiser Revolt As The Beginning Of The End
http://adage.com/article/digital/forrester-sees-advertiser-revolt-beginning-end/308886/

SPONSOR - BRIGHTCOVE and their ebook "The Science of Social Video" - Download for free today using this link: http://cmi.media/pnr182

RANTS AND RAVES
https://www.wsj.com/articles/airbnb-teams-with-hearst-on-magazine-guided-by-travel-sites-data-1493892000

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-buzzfeed-and-mondelez-brought-healthy-food-videos-to-the-masses-1493373600

https://www.youtube.com/user/vlogbrothers

TOM - UnitedHealthcare

https://careers.unitedhealthgroup.com/why-work-here/news-room/2015/unitedhealthcare-launches-becoming-dr-you-course-to-help-older-adults.aspx
http://adage.com/article/cmo-strategy/brand-u-marketers-offer-courses-content/300892/