Fri, 30 September 2022
Joe and Robert discuss the impending (or ongoing) bear market in the creator economy. This means less sponsorships and different business models for both content marketers and creators. Disney goes all Web3, while social media networks continue to take, take, take. Rants and raves include a Robert downer on the Democratic party (listen first!) and Joe's rant about TikTok going bye bye. This week's links: Interview with Disney CEO on Next-Gen Storytelling Social Media Giants Changing Terms on Creators The 10k Creator Podcast with Joe Pulizzi and Daren Smith --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 23 September 2022
Spotify announced a new audiobook strategy, aiming directly at Amazon (plus Apple and Google). Twitch bans online gambling after a soap-opera type scamming by a popular streamer. But, will it last? ESPN launches a creator network, investing a bucket of pucks into the initiative. Both Joe and Robert agree, it's "meh". And Starbucks launches a new Web3 loyalty program, investing a double bucket of pucks. Rants and raves include purpose and more purpose...plus, the Emmy awards. This week's articles: Twitch Online Gambling Announcement --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 16 September 2022
In a special Content Marketing World week episode, Joe and Robert discuss their content marketing presentations in detail and what the future holds of the discipline of content marketing. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 9 September 2022
In this very special episode, we bring back one of This Old Marketing's most popular episodes: a breakdown of what makes (and breaks) This Old Marketing (the podcast) featuring content entrepreneur Jay Acunzo. This week's sponsor is Zapier. Start your free account today at Zapier.com/TOM. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get the best content creator newsletter 2x per week. |
Fri, 2 September 2022
This week Donald Trump's Truth Social made the news concerning runway and SPAC issues. Does Truth and it's parent company have enough money to hold on? And even worse news...Google has a lot to say about it. In acquisition land, Benioff's Time brand bought Brandcast to launch Time Sites. Robert sees this as a big deal moving forward. Joe believes that these small acquisitions are going to rule the next 18 months. And what about AI and content? Robert just wrote a report on the future of Marketing AI. Is he right? In rants and raves, Robert shares a rare Comms research spotlight, while Joe rants about a new NFT marketplace. This week's links: --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 26 August 2022
Donald Trump's Truth Social is hitting bigger numbers...but are they big enough? Instagram's changes from social network to content discovery platform is messing with a number of small business models, while YouTube and TikTok block Andrew Tate from the platform. Google launched a new "really helpful" SEO update that attacks sites that don't answer the question searched for. Will their update really fix anything at all? Probably not. And...is TikTok monitoring your information? You bet they are. Rants and raves include the fiasco in Cleveland sports and a review of The Sandman. This week's links: Instagram Changes All the Rules Pam's LinkedIn Plea for Browns' Fans --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Send us your Rally.io ID at ThisOldMarketing.site and get $20 in $TILT and $IDEA coin for a podcast review. |
Fri, 19 August 2022
Big news as Mailchimp deactivates a number of crypto-based newsletters. We cover what's behind the move and what you need to do about it. Morning Brew is yet another in line to launch a creator program. What are they doing differently? A new group-based social network is launched (Niche). But how long will it last? And Meta (Facebook) launches their metaverse program in France and Spain. And yes, it is the most ridiculous thing you will see today. Rants and raves include creator burnout and Creem magazine. This week's sponsor is Zapier. Start your free account today at Zapier.com/TOM. This week's links: TV or Social Media More Polarizing? --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Send us your Rally.io ID at ThisOldMarketing.site and get $20 in $TILT and $IDEA coin for a podcast review. |
Fri, 12 August 2022
This week Joe and Robert cover the big news out of Disney. Do they really have more subscribers than Netflix? Are they the greatest media company of all-time? (the answer is yes) Axios sells to Cox Enterprises, creating a local media opportunity that may be unprecedented. At the 5x revenue valuation, the boys ponder how a content marketing division could be valued (revenue or not). Lyft creates a media division...but the real story is the ongoing diversification of audience and customer revenue. Rants and raves include online gambling content and whether it's better or worse to work from home. This week's links: Malcolm Gladwell on Working from Home --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 5 August 2022
Twitter is launching a new version of Spaces. Is this the answer to the platform's woes, or is this just another move to find a "non-Elon" acquirer of the business? Meta discontinues paying media companies as part of their news feed. But good news! They are adding it on the Instagram side. Is Meta searching to find its way or could they be Microsoft from a decade ago? We are shocked that payola is happening on podcasts. What needs to be done to combat this? Rants and raves include commentary from Robert about how Meta is actually in a pretty good position after all. Joe raves about Ryan Reynolds new MNTN ad. This week's sponsor is Zapier. Start your free account today at Zapier.com/TOM. This week's links: Instagram Adds Payment for Reels --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 29 July 2022
TikTok continues to dominate tech as Meta, Snap and Twitter all slump. But...is TikTok due for a correction? Instagram changes their algo and a million influencers cry simultateously? Will Insta revert to the old or are they only focused on TikTok? And advertising revenues are projecting down. Are we heading deeper into a depression? This week's links: SEC Launches Probe Against Coinbase TikTok Creator Factory May Be Broken --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 22 July 2022
Joe and Robert break down the latest Netflix results and the launch of their ad-supported model. And apparently TikTok is going to replace Google for search, while all designers and artists are afraid of AI. This week's articles: TikTok Is the New Google for Gen Z DALLE 2, AI and Graphic Design --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 15 July 2022
Oh...in a spicy social media slugfest, Joe and Robert discuss what will happen now that Elon Musk has turned his back on Twitter. Spotify buys Heardle, but have they figured out their "real" business model? Bloomberg sure doesn't think so. And the boys go at it again on the future of Clubhouse. They agree it's only mostly dead. Rants and raves include a new podcast network formula and NASA shots. This week's links: Is Spotify's Model in Trouble? Should Netflix Launch a Theme Park? Netflix Partners with Microsoft --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 8 July 2022
This episode is all about being banned. From R Kelly's scrubbing from Spotify and YouTube, to CSN's return to Spotify, and China's serious ban on more than 30 different categories of content. Joe and Robert talk about what marketers and creators need to do now to prepare for the erasing to come. Rants and raves include Hank Green's Vidcon presentation and how to survive without a platform AND the difference between building an audience and building a community. This week's articles: Crosby, Stills & Nash Return to Spotify --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 1 July 2022
This week we breakdown The Tilt's 2nd Annual Creator Economy research. What makes a successful content creator? How long does it take? Why do creators do what they do? Twitter launches yet another new program, this one likely to do nothing at all. And Better Homes & Gardens halts print for a portion of their audience. Robert thinks this is a test to see if subs will continue if they kill print. He could be right? Rants and raves include social media influencer spend and Amazon as your dead grandmother. This week's sponsor is Zapier. Start your free account today at Zapier.com/TOM. This week's links: Twitter Launches New Advertiser Program --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 24 June 2022
Twitter announces their new long-form content initiative called Notes. Joe and Robert discuss how Twitter is carving out a possible "super-app" opportunity, specifically focused on content creators. It could work. Facebook unleashes a hundred new ideas to help creators monetize the platform. Talky talk talk talk. Rants and raves include amazing Web3 use cases and PritchardCon. This week's links: Snap's CEO Thinks Twitter Can Be Super-App Facebook's Creator Monetization Ideas --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 17 June 2022
Joe and Robert detail the latest Web3 and crypto bad news. But could now be the very best time to invest your time and talent? Canada unleashes a controversial law that seems like way more problem than solution. Facebook engages in another rug pull. Can we ever trust Meta again? (the answer is no) Rants and raves include when it's time to stop your content and bringing back AOL. This week's links: When To Pull the Content Creator Plug The Cure for Imposter Syndrome --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 10 June 2022
As the boys dive head first into Mamby Pamby Land, they discuss whether Elon is hot or cold for Twitter. This week's links: Recession Not Bad for Creators --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 3 June 2022
More shenanigans at Meta with not one but two executives leaving. Twitter crumbles under the weight of Elon as more employees seek to leave. Media companies are leaving pay-wall strategies for sponsorships, while more regulations coming for Web3. Rants and raves include the Michelob Ultra guy and social media rulings. This week's sponsor is Zapier. Start your free account today at Zapier.com/TOM. This week's links: Media Companies Move to Sponsorships --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 27 May 2022
Is Seth Green's missing BAYC NFT an actual thing, or is it part of a larger marketing conspiracy. Conan sells Team Coco to SiriusXM for $150 million. Will we see more? Absolutely. Politicians gang up against Google and Facebook over antitrust concerns. Probably nothing. In rants and raves, Joe comments on a16z's State of Crypto Report and the latest creator economy report. Robert rants about Google as a common carrier. Special thanks to our sponsor Superside, hassle-free design at scale. TOM listeners get a $3,000 credit by signing up at this link. This week's links: Antitrust Violations for Google/Facebook --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 20 May 2022
This episode could be our ticket to Webby fame. You'll just have to listen to be sure. We, of course, go through the latest Twitter disaster that is Elon Musk, and then detail the new THE Spotify NFT integration. All that, and Netflix is getting into live streaming. Who knew? Rants and raves include a TED Talk from the Instagram CEO and more Star Trek. Special thanks to our sponsor Superside, hassle-free design at scale. TOM listeners get a $3,000 credit by signing up at this link. This week's links: 20 Percent Spam Accounts on Twitter --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 13 May 2022
Joe and Robert do an overview of the crazy week in crypto. Is this an opportunity or has Web3's time come to pass? The New York Times and Disney release earnings and the boys run through the highlights. The Wall Street Journal says NFTs are dead. Other sources say the WSJ didn't do their homework. Who's correct? And Instagram launches a test NFT program. Good move? Rants and raves include Starbucks moving their rewards program to Web3 and a rant on personalization you don't want to miss. This week's links: Wall Street Journal Is Dead Wrong --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 6 May 2022
A special episode covering the latest content creator/content entrepreneur research from The Tilt as Joe and Robert head out to Creator Economy Expo (CEX). Data points include- - How long until content creators get to revenue. - How long to financial independence. - What are the aspects that move a content creator to a content entrepreneur. - Key points for both content marketers and content creators to consider. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 29 April 2022
The Elon/Twitter saga continues. Joe and Robert break down the real reason why Elon is trying to buy Twitter. Ad spending is mostly up at MSFT, Meta and Google. Is this the golden age of advertising? The subscriber model is getting a lot of hate lately, but there is still hope. Rants and raves include an interesting NFT launch and a try at Gen Z social media. This week's links: Twitter Mulls Ad-Free Platform Morning Brew Gets to 4 Million Subs --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 22 April 2022
While the Elon Musk/Twitter saga rages on, Robert and Joe cover major changes (or not) in the native advertising/sponsored content industry. In other news, Netflix's subscriber loss is a warning sign for streaming paid media. And...Rolling Stone goes creator economy. What does that mean for the brand and for media in general? Rants and raves includes a content entrepreneur story from AdWeek and analysis on whether web scraping is legal. This week's links: Netflix Looks at Ad-Supported Model Rolling Stone Goes Creator Economy Rolling Stone MrBeast Case Study Integrity and Sponsored Content Influencers Are Becoming Entrepreneurs --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 15 April 2022
It's breaking news time as Joe and Robert discuss Elon Musk's intent to purchase Twitter. CNN+ looks more like CNN minus as the new project begins cutbacks after barely starting. Coinbase will partner with BAYC on a film project. Robert is not impressed. Meta begins their metaverse project with price gouging, while BeReal is the new social app darling. Rants and raves includes true quality content and the dark side of content marketing. This week's links: Jack Dorsey's First Tweet Does Nothing Marketing Dive Sponsored Research --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 8 April 2022
Robert and Joe discuss what happens to Twitter now than Elon put one percent of his net worth into the company. Podcasting is down, but is that a problem? And the boys predict that Web3 will soon be dominated by a centralized player. Is that bad? Probably not. This week's links: YouTube to Launch Podcast Player Podcasting Stats See First Drop Tech Startup Doesn't Mention NFTs or Web3 Journalists and Personal Brands --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 1 April 2022
Well, Joe and Robert are finally seeing their 10-year prediction come to fruition. It seems that just about every tech company out there is turning into a significant media company. This week, the boys share the news about Hubspot's creator network, Wendy's does a Meta bacon fake, while a BAYC owner launches a bored restaurant. And...what's up with Vimeo and their pricing? This week's links: Wendy's and Meta Partner on a Cheeseburger Big Money with a Small Audience Jay Acunzo's Accountability Program --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 25 March 2022
Yuga Labs gets $450 million, giving it a $4 billion dollar valuation. Robert is suspect whether the Bored Ape Yacht Club (BAYC) and CryptoPunks owner can drive that much value. Joe, of course, completely disagrees. Rants and raves includes an amazing Web3 piece from the New York Times and a rant about what channels Web3 creators will use to communicate with fans. This week's links: --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 18 March 2022
In this episode, the boys discuss the future of NFTs and content marketing, the mixture of HBO and Discovery, Web3 gimmicks and the normalization of podcasting. Rants and raves include more Nielsen drama and Yuga Labs buying CryptoPunks. Links this episode include: Acura Launches New NFT Program Lacoste Goes Metaverse with Minecraft Yuga Labs Buys CryptoPunks/Meebits --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 11 March 2022
After the launch of the very successful Disney+, mouse executives have decided to screw the entire thing up by offering an ad-supported streaming option. Good job! One anonymous user just got an $8 million dollar loan backed by CryptoPunk NFTs. What does this mean for crypto and NFT marketing? Netflix buys a game maker in news from the obvious, while the knitting community goes to threads over a content creator. Rants and raves include a knock on Slack and quality Disney data. Links this episode: --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 4 March 2022
This week we discuss the Russia/Ukraine conflict and the impact on crypto and media coverage. M&A continues to go crazy as Epic Games buys Bandcamp. Elsewhere, Salesforce goes NFT and their employees revolt. And as expected, TikTok announces the move to 10-minute videos. What's next? Infinity. Rants and raves include NFTs for access and a podcasting toy for white guys. Links this Episode: Attend CEX - Creator Economy Expo Salesforce Accounces NFT Cloud Service SF Employees Protest NFT Service Podcast on NFTs for Access with Mike Stelzner and Joe Pulizzi Coinbase Super Bowl Ad Controversy Podcast Toy for White Guys - SNL h/t Tom Webster for the episode title. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 25 February 2022
In this very special #ThisOldMarketing episode, Joe and Robert take a deep dive into the Web3 universe. They cover:
- The evolution from Web1 to Web2 to Web3. Links this episode: Why Brands Need to Pay Attention to NFTs Attend CEX - Creator Economy Expo --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 18 February 2022
In this episode Joe and Robert run through the Super Bowl ad winners and losers. There may be some surprises. Spotify buys more and more podcast companies as it makes a business model shift. And Binance, of all companies, takes a $200 million dollar stake in Forbes. Rants and raves include Andrew Davis' video prowess and a Web3 comparison to John D. Rockefeller. Episode Links - Register for Creator Economy Expo --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 11 February 2022
The boys cover the ongoing Spotify/Joe Rogan saga, while Robert's new book title should be "Epic Marketing Rant." The continuing soap opera at Spotify calls into question the editorial control needs of a platform. And yes, platform also means media company. Buzzfeed outs the BAYC founders. Was this the right thing to do? And, really? Buzzfeed? More than 50 percent of all ad spending in 2022 will go to three companies. Joe thinks we need to start supporting small, niche content creators. And we have three company examples experimenting with the Metaverse. Well, not really. In rants and raves, Joe comments about the ability to create IP and NOT own an NFT, while Robert delivers an epic rant around marketing measurement. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 4 February 2022
The Spotify/Joe Rogan situation seems to be gaining momentum as more musicians and podcasters dump the platform for Apple pastures.
Wordle wiggles seven figures out of the New York Times, while product analytics company Pendo went out and purchased themselves a media company as the M&A market heats up. In rants and raves, Robert complains yet again about zero-party data. Joe comments on the early nature of NFTs, and begs Mark Ritson for more curiosity. Robert's book recommendation: The Opposable Mind by Roger Martin. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. image: Getty Images |
Fri, 28 January 2022
Neil Young gives the finger to Spotify, while influencers and content creators fight for naming rights. In today's episode, Neil Young takes a stand against Joe Rogan and Spotify. Will it work and does it matter? And...right-wing commentator Joe Bongino gets booted from YouTube. Do they have the right, and what's the long-term play? We discuss the meaning of influencers versus creators as McDonald's goes influencer, Trump Social goes searching, and Forbes gets into the creator economy. And finally, Tom Brady launches his new crypto NFT project. Yes, we are going back to the year 2000. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Andy Weir's new book, and Robert rants about Google and ad privacy. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 21 January 2022
In this week's news, Microsoft buys Activision for $69 billion (are you kidding me?). Is this important and why should creators/marketers care? There is a new bill on the hill about data and advertising. The only thing we know for sure is that first-party data is more important than ever. Get those emails ready to go! Google/YouTube drops YouTube Originals. Can Google commit to anything? Was this a sound decision? Joe raves about a Web3 chart and reviews the online battle for Web3 between Prof G and Packy McCormick. Of course, both Joe and Robert have a take. Robert then raves about Edelman's new trust report. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Podcast image: Universal Pictures |
Fri, 14 January 2022
This week, Joe and Robert cover The New York Times purchase of The Athletic. The good, the bad and the very ugly. All in all, we're thumbs up. The Information says media valuations are down except for paid subscription models. True? Well, not really. LinkedIn is going all newsroom. Will this finally be the move that vaults LinkedIn to B2B media king? Will their social audio feature help? Oh...and Jake Paul launches a sports drink while a reality star sells her farts as NFTs (you can't make this stuff up). In rants and raves, Joe comments on the Great Resignation and a big deal in NIL sports. Robert then goes old school with Harvard Business Review. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 7 January 2022
All the wrong 2022 content predictions in one place. From Robert - - Content Marketing and Marketing Content Operations Merge This Year - and become overall MarketingOPS. From Joe - - Multiple tech companies turn into large media enterprises. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 31 December 2021
The boys review the content creation and content marketing stories that made 2021 amazing...or definitely one-of-a-kind. Robert reviews: - Mirror and the Ownership Economy Joe reviews: - Rented land in the news (Twitch and OnlyFans) --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 24 December 2021
A small investment group tries to pry Forbes away from a SPAC, while Buzzfeed's stock drops by 50 percent inside its shiny new SPAC. What does this mean for media and content creators moving forward? In the UK, the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) says the Arsenal Football Club violated advertising rules with the launch of its $AFC token. (also, here's a great podcast overview from the BBC on tokens in the UK.) Rants and raves include Joe's take on TikTok becoming the #1 web property on the planet, while Robert gives us this wonderful holiday poem.
Twas the Night Before Break by Robert Rose
’Twas the night before break, #TheStruggleWasReal, No marketer rested easy, discontent did they feel.
Budgets and plans hung by email attachments, In the hopes that VPs would approve their advancement.
Managers all sighed and climbed into their beds, While visions of new podcasts danced in their heads.
She in Lululemon and I in Cowboys gear Had settled in for cocktails after a long, chaotic year
When online in my feeds, there arose such a clatter. I sprang open my Chrome to see what was the matter.
Away to my tabs, I clicked on them post haste, Tore open Google News to see just what we faced.
The headlines were filled with so much interruption – A luster of clickbait o’er this holiday disruption.
When what to my marketer’s eyes should appear? Nothing but omicron, crypto, stock crashes, and fear.
Suddenly a noise came so lively and quick, The voice I recognized could be only St. Nick!
With a whistle and a shout, he parked on my roof – His self-driving Tesla couldn’t distinguish the route.
As fast as Quibi proceeded to fail, St. Nick jumped to his MacBook and opened email.
“Now budgets! Now plans! Now audits! Now tech! On process! On content! On calendars in check!”
He flew ’cross the keyboard, dramatically smashed Send, Gave us all our approvals, extending our content spend.
He spoke not a word but held his hand to his ear Listening for mail notifications across the world to appear.
Then laying his finger aside of his nose He winked and said, “Tell it well, Robert Rose.”
St. Nick sprang to his Tesla, gave me a quick wave, Then turned and confided, “Some plans even Ryan Reynolds can’t save.
“But for all the content marketing folk and for you, I wish you good times in 2022.”
And then he flew off, with less noise than in Clubhouse Waving off all the fear, the uncertainty, the doubts.
Then I heard him exclaim as he shifted into “gear,” “Happy Holidays to all and a Happy New Year!” --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 17 December 2021
Peloton kicks off the show with one of the best real-time marketing examples of our time. Of course, helped by Ryan Reynolds. Social media platforms continue to crush customers without warning. On Instagram, an Australian woman loses her @metaverse account for mysterious reasons. On Twitch, celebrity-streamer Hasan Piker gets banned from the site without one word from Twitch. In acquisition news, Nike buys metaverse company RTFKT. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Jay Acunzo's Unthinkable podcast about creator fear and differentiation, while Robert raves about the new digital wallet plugin, Unlock. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 10 December 2021
Joe kicks off the show with a special announcement...a new event called CEX - Creator Economy Expo. Joe is partnering with Brian Clark for this May in-person-only event. As part of the show, CEX is launching their NFT project called CEX Never Ending Tickets. Only 100 are available. Robert discusses new research about the growth in advertising, over the last year and into 2022. Is it real or are the numbers skewed? M&A is taking off in the newspaper industry. But what is a newspaper anyway? Marriott launches their new NFT program. Utility or gimmick? The boys agree that it's a marketing gimmick. And cosmetic company Lush kills all social media content production. Good move? In rants and raves, Joe rants about creating content on every platform and then discusses the state of inflation in the US. Robert rants about the lack of a 360 degree customer view and raves about Hollywood content production. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 3 December 2021
Special thanks to Gary Busey for his amazing introduction, to Pamela Muldoon for her sultry voice, and to JK Kalinowski for his design chops. Welcome to a very special 300th episode of This Old Marketing. Big shout out to the sponsor of this episode, Parse.ly, who stepped up and supported this show when no one else would. How does this show work? Joe and Robert are going to take your questions - and we've assembled 10 of the finest and best questions - yeah, pretty much the ones we felt like answering. Some of them came through audio...and some of them came through our hashtag on Twitter...but all of them we assume came with love and affection. For those ten people who submitted questions: we'll be reaching out after the show to find out how to get you your prizes. As we mentioned, we're giving away a copy of Killing Marketing (either in print or in Kindle version) AND $50 in $TILT Coin. We've separated the questions into two basic categories: industry trends and questions about us and the show. INDUSTRY QUESTIONS SEGMENT QUESTION #1 Our first question comes in two parts... The first part is via the Twitter Hashtag and it's from Dennis Shiao. On this show for the last 300 episodes, you've advised us forever to not build our content house on rented land. With Web 3.0 now facing us - is it possible that the entire concept of rented land goes away? The second part comes from email - and is from José Delameilleure. I am a free lance content writer from Belgium. I work in the niche of B2B IT, and usually in even deeper niches like Identity and Access Management, IoT, Artificial Intelligence,... In these niches, we are usually forced to use 'rented land' like LinkedIn to get our messages out. What can we do to claim our own piece of land and attract visitors to it? QUESTION #2 Our next question also comes via the Twitter Hashtag and is from Jared Opfer. What business had the biggest miss in the last 12 months? Who has the biggest opportunity in the next 12 months? QUESTION #3 Our next question is from our friend Bernie Borges through the Contact Form on our Website. I'm looking for examples of blockchain solutions for B2B and I don't see them. All the talk about brands planning their NFTs are B2C brands like Disney and Starbucks. What can B2B brands like HubSpot, Oracle and CMI do on the blockchain? Should they mint social tokens? Etc. What's your take? QUESTION 4 The next question comes from Eddie Naranjo via the contact form on the site. The question is given the current transition from Web 2 to Web 3 - which business model and tilt would you use to bootstrap a new business for a person who loves Wordpress design, content marketing, affiliate marketing and is really curious about crypto, NFTs and a way to tokenize products or services. QUESTION 5 Our next question is the last in our industry space from Yen Yee who asked this question via the hashtag on Twitter. What is the current content marketing technology stack at CMI Content, The Content Advisory and The Tilt? ------------ This week's sponsor: Parse.ly Is your content team still split between creative types and numbers people?
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Tue, 23 November 2021
Content Marketing Trends, Pet Peeves and the Best Business Books of All Time [Special Episode] (299)
In this special Thanksgiving episode, Joe and Robert answer these seven questions: 1. What are we currently reading? --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 19 November 2021
Is Disney going metaverse? Of course they are, but should they at this point? Joe and Robert discuss exactly what Disney needs to do (and, of course, they will be correct). Miramax is suing Quentin Tarantino over his launch of "Pulp Fiction" NFTs. Joe believes there are major legal landmines here, while Robert believes it's all a marketing stunt. Speaking of NFTs and marketing stunts, this Industry Dive article goes through what brands are doing now to take advantage of the NFT run. Phase 1 is all stunts and short-sighted marketing. Phase 2 will be all about utility. Rants and raves include a DAO buying the US Constitution and Netflix's new power rankings. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 12 November 2021
With three episodes until the amazing 300th This Old Marketing episode, Joe and Robert discuss the token as a subscription model. Specifically, what would the New York Times look like tokenized? Walgreens goes big with content marketing and now has 87 people assigned to the content group. Is it a good strategy or do they need to go bigger? Joe raves about the ENS token drop and creation of a DAO while Robert raves about what B2B companies need to do to adapt. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 5 November 2021
The big news of the week was Facebook's name change to Meta (for metaverse). But was the purpose of it to distract the The Facebook Papers? Robert says yes, Joe says no, and Nike starts to create IP for Web 3. In the continued platform wars, Google and Amazon start a war with Roku over search and data. Joe raves about the Bankless podcast with Chris Dixon (a16z) about Web 3 and mental models, while Robert raves about Apple's publishing cloth. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 29 October 2021
Apple's new mobile privacy terms are creating problems for both Snap and Facebook. Twitter showed improvement. Spotify is shining. eSports and entertainment company FaZe clan is doing a SPAC deal worth about $1 billion dollars US. Joe and Robert believe this type of content and incubator system has legs in the content marketing world. Disney lowers Disney+ expectations. Can they compete with Netflix? Rants and raves include a Robert rant - a CB Insights article on brands buying media companies (but not calling it content marketing). Joe raves about NFTs for content creators and Amazon KDP finally offers hardcover books. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 22 October 2021
In headline news, former President Donald Trump launches a right-wing social network called TRUTH, and does it inside a SPAC. Financial services company PayPal sets to acquire Pinterest in what could be the biggest social media deal in over a decade. And then there's Facebook. For a variety of reasons, Zuckerberg's company is set to rebrand under a new name, supposedly with a new mission around the metaverse. Zuckerland? ZikTok? Zinstagram? The MarTech Alliance released a new report on the state of marketing technology. Robert breaks down the highlights of the report, and what marketing professionals need to do because of it. Get the report here. In rants and raves, Robert rants about Advertising Week. Once again, nothing on content marketing. Plus, a four-week rant continues here. Joe raves about this definition of NFTs. This Old Marketing can be found on Twitter at #ThisOldMarketing. -------- The world has changed and so has the way we learn. Embrace a new approach to building the skills and knowledge you need to succeed. The MarTech Alliance, a specialist learning solutions provider in marketing, tech and data provides a suite of learning options across its events, courses and resources, for individuals and teams. Combining the digital & physical, live & on demand, formal & informal, micro & intensive/in-depth, instructor led, self serve & community based to deliver rich learning experiences. From its anti-conference; #MarTechFest, to its market research, webinars and certified digital courses you can keep learning and keep upgrading. Checkout the MarTech Alliance to help drive your career and company. For more details visit: www.martechalliance.com/ --------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 15 October 2021
Meredith's sale says big things about the future of media. Joe and Robert break down the what and why. Axios says that the creator economy is failing. Why? Because the platforms aren't giving out enough? Because there are big winners and some losers? The creator economy is a huge success. Change the perspective a bit and see. Justin Blau has developed a new NFT marketplace for musicians. Could this be the future business model for content creators? Rants and raves include a huge rave on the Sugar Factory and a continued rant on the lack of calling the practice content marketing. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 8 October 2021
This week, Joe and Robert discuss the outage heard around the world...Facebook. What does it mean for marketers and creators? At the same time, Facebook is dealing with whistleblower allegations on the Hill. Well, Facebook's stock tanked and worries surrounded the tech giant. Could Facebook have planned all this? The answer is, maybe. Joe and Robert discuss a number of Facebook conspiracy theories that actually make some sense (if you are drunk or high), from a PR switcheroo to an attack against SNAP and TikTok. In other news, Chase buys Zagat...with a Chase credit card. Rants and raves include an in-depth look at YouTube for creators from MatPat and Playboy's strategy takes a turn. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 1 October 2021
In this very special Content Marketing World episode, Joe and Robert break down their 2021 keynote presentations, talking about the opportunities in the creator economy, for content entrepreneurs and for content marketing professionals. Some strategies discussed include: - Moving from rented to owned land. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 24 September 2021
Ted Lasso win's multiple Emmy's. Let's talk about that for 20 minutes please. McKinsey launches a new content marketing program targeting (of all things) kids. Does it play? Sports Illustrated launches a partnership with 888 for a new sports gambling site. Good or bad move? Is there an opportunity to purchase small, digital communities? Heck yes. And...Is F* You Pay Me the real deal? Rants and raves include Chipotle's new content creator program and Robert's rant on marketing measurement. ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.
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Fri, 17 September 2021
Financial and tax services company Intuit ties the knot with Mailchimp, showing clearly that Intuit is trying to corner the SMB audience market. Opensea, the eBay of NFTs, has an issue with insider trading. Joe and Robert use the time to talk about new NFT projects and what they are good for. Clubhouse hires a publisher. Robert is still bearish. Joe takes a wait-and-see approach. And CMO optimism is higher than ever. Are they right? Rants and raves include a DAO powerpoint rave from Joe, while Robert gushes over a new trust survey. ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 10 September 2021
Joe and Robert go into deep analysis on Rand Fishkin's latest post on the difficulty of being a web content creator. Twitter launches a new product, Communities. Robert doesn't like it and Joe thinks Twitter should just buy Discord. In rants and raves, Robert raves about Matthew Sweezey's First-Party Data chart, while Joe strongly disagrees with Seth Godin's take on NFTs. ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 3 September 2021
In acquisition news, Mailchimp could be sold to financial services company Intuit for $10 billion. What does this mean for the future of marketing and finance? The New York Times did a story on Li Jin (from creator economy and passion economy fame). What happens when the audience gains equity access with the content creator? And...Spotify has started to remove their podcasts from other players while Amazon seeks to dominate digital radio. In rants and raves, Robert comments about CMO terms and Joe raves about the Savannah Bananas. ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.
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Fri, 27 August 2021
The NSFW sharing site OnlyFans does an about face after outlawing sexual content the previous week. What can content entrepreneurs learn from all this? Vanity Fair believes that creators are in trouble either way. Axel Springer buys Politico and Protocol this week, showing that a content site can be created and then sold in less than two years. And, in maybe the biggest news of the week, Spotify opens up paid subscription options to all U.S. podcasters. Joe raves about Patreon Jack Conte's presentation on Adjusting Your Package, and rants on The Verge's coverage of Joe Rogan losing influence. Robert rants about CMO influence and raves about the Val Kilmer Documentary. ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.
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Mon, 23 August 2021
A detailed analysis of Red Ventures. The media empire looks like the future of all companies. The boys discuss why. Future buys most of Dennis Publishing. Yes, the acquisition party continues. Is it time for you to get in on the action? And the New York Times finally release their Substack killer. But will it actually work? Robert raves about the T Brand launch of "Soul of Us" and rants about bad data. Joe raves about Hubspot co-founder Dharmesh Shah's interview on "My First Million". ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 13 August 2021
Breaking news as Salesforce announced the launch of Salesforce+ (of course) in quest to become the Netflix for business content. Rants and raves include Joe raving about the BABA Summit in Chicago and the power of communities, and Robert rants about headlines that really mean nothing at all. ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 6 August 2021
The boys kick off the show announcing NFT marketplace OpenSea's big revenue move in the last few weeks. Is Robert coming around the idea? Joe thinks so. The Gap's Athleta launches AthletaWell, a content marketing loyalty play in the leisureware space. A good move, but an even better move to capture first-party data. Facebook will show its first movie, while Amazon pools its resources to become one of the biggest media distribution companies in the world. And digital media adoption overtakes traditional media for the first time, but there is a huge missed opportunity that no one is seeing. In rants and raves, both Joe and Robert rant about the coverage of the Olympics, while Joe recommends the Olympic coverage from Snoop Dogg. ------- This Week's Sponsor .Online Business Academy - FREE business courses. No prior business experience needed. ------- Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 30 July 2021
Joe and Robert digest the breaking research from The Tilt on the state of the content entrepreneur. What makes them successful? How long does it take to build an audience? How do they make money? Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook all release amazing earnings totally almost $100 billion for the quarter. What's next for these most profitable tech companies? After finally taking suggestions from Joe and Robert, Netflix launches into physical retail. It's about time. And Spotify moves to dominate the podcast space. Will it work? Rants and raves include a shout out to Marketing Dive, YouTuber Miles Beckler, and Dax Shepard breaking down crypto. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 23 July 2021
Clubhouse is back. Maybe. The social audio app is now open to the world, and has gained 10 million new downloads in the past two months. Joe thinks there is a chance. Robert thinks that Clubhouse as a feature only will fail. Zoom launches On Zoom. Frankly, this could be big, and positions Zoom as a clear leader in the video creation and event space. Substack is getting into the podcast game...big time. Is this a good move or just clutter? Everyone is after the 50 million estimated content creators. In rants and raves, Joe raves about this Patreon interview and is concerned about the WSJ report on TikTok's algo. Robert comments once again on Ad Tech. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 16 July 2021
In this episode, Joe and Robert break down the future of NFTs in marketing, lead by Gary Vaynerchuk's partnership with Budweiser. TikTok's parent ByteDance goes full Amazon B2B by launching BytePlus, the product version of their AI algorithm. Joe and Robert both believe this is going to be the next greatest thing in marketing tech. Printed books soar, but is the new opportunity really in print magazines? And finally, the advertising market is booming, but not by the normal players. In rants and raves, Joe raves about the GQ feature of Jason Sudeikis and rants about Loki. Robert rants about mainstream marketing media talking about marketing spend going down, when they have absolutely no idea they are using the wrong metrics. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 9 July 2021
In breaking news, MEL magazine is sold by Dollar Shave Club and will begin again in a few months. Joe and Robert discuss why content entrepreneurs should work on exit planning and marketing directors need to focus on M&A. Is every company a fintech company? Probably not...but the options for content creators to monetize have never been greater. Joe and Robert discuss all the options. And here comes TikTok! The Chinese social media platform launched a Cameo competitor, hosted one of the largest live streams ever, and now Instagram is shaking a bit. In rants and raves, Joe comments on the NIL movement that is just starting, and Robert complains about the fear being caused over the "quitting crisis." ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 2 July 2021
The boys launch the show discussing the NCAA's new ruling that college players can be compensated for their image and likeness. While we don't know exactly what will happen, we do know that athletes from every sport will be developing out their audience-building strategies as of yesterday. In other news, experiential events are on the rise (of course), but are brands throwing out the digital bathwater and missing a huge opportunity? And Buzzfeed finally gets to go public through a SPAC. What's next? About 1,000 M&A deals. Roberts rants about Google's play with cookies, and raves about Budweiser's new commercial. Joe raves about the Amazon/Wondery purchase of the Smartless podcast. This week's podcast sponsor is MarcomGather. With MarcomGather you can quickly centralize assets, eliminate unorganized file storage, and best of all - never lose track of your files again. Experience MarcomGather free for 30 days at https://marcom.com/tom/. [and please use this link...it helps us at This Old Marketing] ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 25 June 2021
The Information estimates that last year's creator economy take is about $2 billion dollars. Does it have room to run? CNBC and The Drum cover content marketing like it's a brand new thing, while American Express ditches their Departures print magazine for the web's greener pastures. And podcasts continue to go big, now accounting for over $1 billion in advertising revenues. Rants and raves include Drew Barrymore's new print magazine and Cristiano Ronaldo's spat with Coca-Cola. This week's podcast sponsor is MarcomGather. With MarcomGather you can quickly centralize assets, eliminate unorganized file storage, and best of all - never lose track of your files again. Experience MarcomGather free for 30 days at https://marcom.com/tom/. [and please use this link...it helps us at This Old Marketing] ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.
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Fri, 18 June 2021
After more than 50 years, American Airlines decided to shutter its print magazine American Way. Good decision? Not a chance. Based on data? Probably not. Americans have hit fatigue status when it comes to Video on Demand (VOD). Is this a short-term blip or will things continue to heat up? Spotify launched its Clubhouse-competitor Greenroom this week. The boys discuss who will win the social audio wars. And finally, Netflix launched a merchandise home on the web. The problem is it doesn't really sell anything. Rants and raves include Link-in-Bio startups, which really isn't a thing and how big tech is taking over the creator economy. This week's podcast sponsor is MarcomGather. With MarcomGather you can quickly centralize assets, eliminate unorganized file storage, and best of all - never lose track of your files again. Experience MarcomGather free for 30 days at https://marcom.com/tom/. [and please use this link...it helps us at This Old Marketing] ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 11 June 2021
Apple unveiled their new privacy policy this week. Among the features is an ability not to track open rates in email newsletters. The boys think this is bad for ecommerce and advertising and good for long-form email newsletters. Facebook announced their Substack killer, called Bulletin, in their fight to slowly manipulate more content creators to the platform. And of all the new products Twitter has announced, the first one to launch is Twitter Blue, a program that will do not one bit of good for anyone (not that we're opinionated or anything). Rants and raves include a rant from Joe on Facebook's new watch. Robert raves on Bo Burnham's new Netflix show, called Inside. This week's podcast sponsor is MarcomGather. With MarcomGather you can quickly centralize assets, eliminate unorganized file storage, and best of all - never lose track of your files again. Experience MarcomGather free for 30 days at https://marcom.com/tom/. [and please use this link...it helps us at This Old Marketing] ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 4 June 2021
In this episode, Joe and Robert start by dissecting the employment move back to offices. Is this a meaningless blip or will marketing and content creation be altered forever? Is the future of media podcasts and newsletters? Axios sure thinks so. While it's an amazing and growing model, both Joe and Robert feel there is an opportunity to zag. Discord does a rebranding. Is there a new CMO or will there be a buyout? The boys think both. And Donald J. Trump announces that his blog will die and he'll move back to social media. From rented land to rented land? Not the best media strategy. In rants and raves, Robert raves about the Salesforce 360 movement, while Joe comments on Google knowledge panels. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 28 May 2021
Decentralized publishing is starting to become "a thing" with the launch of Mirror.xyz, a site for writers built on top of a crypto economy. And yes, creator coins are a thing. The tokenization of everything is happening and content creators sit at the center. Twitter is on the move, finally getting back to the blue verification mark (get yours now). But in bigger news, Twitter is testing out its Super Followers program, which may very well be a game changer. And are celebrity podcasts really that bad? The short answer? Yes. In rants and raves, Robert comments on John Oliver's latest on sponsored content, while Joe passes on the sad news of another social media platform killing. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 21 May 2021
At almost the same time AT&T announced that their WarnerMedia buy was a mistake, Amazon seems close to picking off MGM Studios. Why is everyone except telecom companies figuring this out? And then, there's TheSkimm, which is going shopping for a buyer that is NOT a media company. Big launch week for Pinterest, which adds a live event component, and Twitter, which doesn't quite get their subscription program right. And finally, is everything turning into paid subscription? Rants and raves includes Joe's rave about Coinbase's media house launch, while Robert rants about how some companies are out to destroy our reputations and that AI isn't quite there yet. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 14 May 2021
Social audio company Clubhouse finally launches in Android, but faces an uphill climb around moderation and trolls. Hubspot makes a brilliant move in starting a podcast network. Could it be a glorified sponsorship package? Possibly. But it's still brilliant. And we finally know why YouTube has been fiddling with their short-form video advertising...they are launching a $100 million dollar creator fund for short-form video creators. There you go. And yes, social media platforms are starting to look the same. Who could be the winner? The boys think Twitch. Joe's commentary includes book publishers working to establish direct-reader relationships. Robert rants about making a big deal about CMO term length, and raves about Signal's outing of Facebook. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 7 May 2021
Verizon changes course again by selling off AOL and Yahoo to Apollo. Joe and Robert think they'll purchase both back for more at a later date. Rumors are swirling that Netflix may buy Discovery. Smart move considering how much Netflix is paying for original content these days. And we've seen the future and it is Food52 with their purchase of Dansk. Twitter Spaces moves aggressively into Clubhouse's turf, but Joe thinks the online event business should be shaking right now. Robert still can't get a Spaces invite though. And of course, the boys argue about NFTs, including Kevin Smith's NFT sale of his upcoming movie and Gary Vee's NFT launch that includes a super conference. You know what they say about the first through the wall? They get bloody! Raves include content's role moving to the CMO, and how SMS/texting might actually be a solid content distribution choice with examples from Taika and Great Jones. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 30 April 2021
In this week's news, Neutrogena and Old Spice release the details on the creation of their internal brand studios. Is this Marriott all over again or something different? The answer is in promotion and audience building. More acquisitions are in the works, as friend of #ThisOldMarketing Jay Acunzo sells his podcast. Are more to come? Investors are getting into the content creation game by purchasing equity in shows and enewsletters, but is this good for creators? And Robert (again) asks, is Clubhouse dead? Robert says yes while Joe thinks the jury is still out. Rants and raves include Robert's Adobe rave (and big opportunity) while Joe rants about rented land and YouTube. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 23 April 2021
Is the biggest part of a paid advertising budget with influencers now? The boys think not. Science seems to think that the web can survive without advertising. If so, there are huge opportunities for ungated media sites. And...it really doesn't matter what browser you advertise on. In social audio news, Discord launches their own Clubhouse. So will Facebook. And with Microsoft not buying Discord, who will? Breaking news: Apple will offer revamped podcast subscriptions and help drive podcaster revenue. Good? Probably not for the creator middle class. In rants and raves, Robert comments about Apple's big iOS launch, while Joe talks about being indispensable. In M&A news, the Seven Lakes Insider sells to The Pilot newspaper. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 16 April 2021
DraftKings hires a chief media offer, kicking off their formal program for content marketing and into actually buying media companies. The latest Pew social media research is out. What do we think? Facebook might be in trouble. Oh, and Americans hate social media but are addicted to it. The boys also discuss a rather lengthy article about the staying power of Clubhouse. Can the thrill continue? And mostly rants this week. Joe rants about YouTube's creator newsletter while Robert rants about IBM's new spinoff and P&G's Chinese data mystery. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 9 April 2021
Well, there's a new Facebook data leak, and Facebook is blaming users instead of taking responsibility. The good news? Facebook is updating their feeds so you can have more of what you want. Will it matter? Probably not. Clubhouse, the social audio unicorn, is now speculated at being worth $4 billion dollars. Robert thinks less. Joe thinks more. Clubhouse is also adding creator payment options. Robert is still not happy. Joe raves about Topps Trading Cards announcement that they are going public via SPAC, while Robert slams on The Drum for possibly the worst article ever written. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 2 April 2021
I know, it's hard to believe, but Episode #1 of This Old Marketing still has not sold yet as an NFT. Maybe you forgot? You can bid on it here at Opensea. The social audio battle continues this week, with Spotify buying social radio player Betty Labs, while LinkedIn is about to release their own version of Clubhouse. And guess what? Medium is pivoting again. This time, they are looking at a Substack model. Rants and raves include a rant from Joe about Substack's $650 million valuation, while Robert rants about marketers only focusing on numbers. This week's sponsor: Dialogue Ecommerce businesses are faced with intense competition to lure shoppers into their web shops. Once those shoppers have finally arrived – thanks to expensive marketing and advertising campaigns – the ‘battle has just begun’. Now you need to keep your shoppers engaged and interested, providing them with a shopping experience that is personalized and, yes – fun! – in order for them to fill their cart and check out, rather than bounce away to competitors. It’s a tall order, and ecommerce businesses need all the help they can get. Enter Dialogue, an AI-powered personalization platform that autonomously creates the ideal buyer journey for every shopper, in real time. Dialogue peppers the buyer’s journey with highly engaging interactions. The AI engine meets the shopper in every point of the journey with personalized product recommendations and relevant content that perfectly fit the shopper’s intent and browsing patterns to hit all the coveted ecommerce KPIs: increased average order value, conversion rate, time on site, and retention. Dialogue’s secret sauce is its conversational and witty tone that engages shoppers and elevates their experience. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 26 March 2021
Bid on the first This Old Marketing NFT - Episode #1 now...proceeds going to charity. In this episode, Verizon announces the launch of a robust Yahoo Plus. All we can say is "ouch." Roku continues its Quibi-filled dominance by announcing a marketing services group that might actually work. The New York Times puts down its virtual foot on reporter side gigs. The boys wonder how that happened. And finally, MEL magazine from Dollar Shave Club goes belly up...but can you actually sell a custom magazine? I guess we will find out. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Microsoft's decision to buy Discord, while Robert comments on NBC's new platform, NewsPassID and how the big three continue to steal almost all advertising dollars. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today.
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Fri, 19 March 2021
The Oscars are back and guess what? Netflix absolutely crushed it (and yes, we called it years ago). Facebook is launched a new creator model for writers and journalists that is truly seductive, and will work for inhibiting creators from developing out their own platforms. In NFT land, Charmin has developed an NFT(P) that is sure to kill the entire NFT market (kill as in bad, not good). In rants and raves, Joe raves about Google's career certificate program launch while Robert rants about AT&T and net neutrality. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Get your .site domain today. |
Fri, 12 March 2021
After a royal analysis courtesy of Robert, the boys dissect Disney's subscription program as they hit over 100 million paid subscribers worldwide. The conversation pivots to NFTs (non-fungible tokens), as they discuss Seth Godin's latest blog post about the negatives of NFTs. Robert sides with Seth. Joe thinks Robert should take a ride to the old folks home. Regardless, creator business models are changing. Oh, and as the conversation was happening, Beeple sold his NFT for over $60 million dollars. Robert raves about Zapier buying Makerpad and rants about IAB's new plans. Joe rants and raves about event companies divesting their media properties. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here.
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Fri, 5 March 2021
To kick off the show, Joe and Robert detail their "advanced" Clubhouse experience (likes and dislikes) and why it may have legs. And did you check out the Tom Cruise deepfakes? Roku buys Nielsen's Advanced Video property, and increases its chances to corner the personalized TV advertising market. Axios details the ever-increasing amount of gambling properties getting into the content marketing game. Twitter does a Twitch and plans to launch a "Super Follows" program, which will most likely integrate into Twitter Spaces. And finally, Facebook launches a huge ad campaign against Apple's privacy restrictions. Can anyone say Philip Morris? In rants and raves, Joe discusses Wall Street Bets move to decentralization and Kings of Leon's new NFT while Robert rants about Google's privacy bomb. ------ This week's sponsor: Exceed.ai It is a known, and sad, fact that SaaS companies spend a not-so-small fortune on lead gen. CRMs are clogged with leads that, truth be told, get very little attention, usually in the form of nurture automation, a.k.a. pre-defined email sequence. The result? Few leads are converted and qualified into SQLs. Money spent goes to waste as sales team don’t have the capacity to properly qualify leads resulting in cold to lukewarm leads being pushed to sales calls just to ‘fill in the quota’, so to speak. This time, it’s time that’s wasted. You know where this is going… there must be a better way... Enter Exceed, intelligent AI that autonomously and automatically nurtures and qualifies leads. Exceed digs into your CRM and starts engaging leads in two-way conversations via email, website chat and text messages. The interactions are wholly conversational and personalized based on user and historical data. Once the AI qualifies a lead it independently books a sales call with the relevant sales rep and – immediately – goes back to qualifying more leads. ------ Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 26 February 2021
In headline news, Facebook makes a deal with the Aussie press, doing exactly what we said they would do last week. At the same time, Facebook commits to $1 billion for the news industry. A generous gift or more of the same from Facebook? Macy's media network is taking off to a tune of more than $35 million. Can their business model be saved? Robert and Joe believe the opportunities are great in number. Print is back again, while the great ad tech consolidation is upon us. Rants and raves include social money creator tokens from an Oregon-based band and the worldwide web is ending as we know it. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.
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Fri, 19 February 2021
This week Joe and Robert cover the big news that, after the passage of a media bargaining law, Facebook bans all media companies from its app. Shock abounds, with a number of sites that are "not" media companies being affected. YouTube tries to be more like TikTok and Snap and launches a number of "short-video" strategies. And news from the passion economy with the launch of Li Jin's Atelier Ventures, a $13 million fund to support content creators and content creator tech. Rants and raves include Joe's take on non-fungible tokens (NFTs) and Robert's commentary on how tech companies are taking over higher education. ------ This week's sponsor: accessiBe accessiBe, the company that conducted the research discussed on the show, offers an automated, AI-based accessibility solution and ongoing monitoring for websites of all sizes. Hands free, affordable and ever-lasting, ensuring your website is always accessible for people with disabilities and protecting you from legal action. Get an accessibility test on your website here. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site.
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Fri, 12 February 2021
It's our annual "rip apart the Super Bowl ads" show, which may not mean much since viewership sank to a 15-year low. Twitter announced stellar earnings, including a possible subscription plan roll out. In addition, Twitter is getting aggressive with Spaces (their Clubhouse competitor). Facebook's getting into the mix as well. How much time does Clubhouse have? Will it survive? Niche media companies (like Allrecipes) are all the rage. Even the New York Times is launching a newsletter for kids. Rants and raves include how New York Times is doubling down on its email newsletter model, while the Atlantic and Salesforce partner on a Black-history project. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 5 February 2021
Twitter was abuzz this week when Hubspot announced their purchase of newsletter/small-business media company the Hustle. Terms of the deal were not disclosed. That said, everyone is very happy (except tech companies and traditional media). Clubhouse, now worth a billion dollars, says it's getting into the subscription game. Good idea? Maybe...but a better idea for Twitter. The boys go in-depth on the future of social audio. Joe is high on the idea...Robert is meh at best. Rants and raves includes Tim Cook's war on Facebook and how the Columbia Journalism Review is uber bias. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 29 January 2021
The big news of the week was Twitter buying Revue, a Substack competitor that launches Twitter into the subscription business. What could save or kill the media business? SPACs! Media SPACs are off to a roaring start for 2021, with no end in sight. Rolling Stone does a Forbes and starts a pay-to-play "culture" council, further destroying the once-great media brand, while Clubhouse becomes a Unicorn and is the big social media craze of the year (so far). Rants and raves include Robert's rave about a Google Analytics competitor while Joe raves about wallstreetbets taking on Wall Street. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 22 January 2021
Forbes announced the launch of their own version of Substack, a paid newsletter program driven by independent writers. As the war for content creators heats up, rumors swell around Apple launching a podcast-plus subscription program to compete with Spotify for exclusive (and walled off) audio content. And as the fight for creators continues, media companies begin to decide who owns the RSS feed as media consumption hits over 70 hours per week in the United States. Robert rants about a Martech announcement that means absolutely nothing, while Joe raves about Disney's acquisition strategy and Netflix investing $20 billion in content. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 15 January 2021
This week on This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert cover Amazon taking down Parler. Does it tell us anything about free speech? And, while that was happening, someone scraped all Parler's data. The run on music archives continues, with OneRepublic's Ryan Tedder getting a boat load of cash for songs we've never heard. How does the media rebound? By becoming human again of course. Axios launched a 10k subscription product to help brands communicate better internally. They may not have priced it high enough. And as a cake topper, over 1,000 brands unknowingly ran ads against articles promoting conspiracy theories. We are shocked. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Mr Beast's origin story, while Robert gushes over Edelman's Trust Barometer. Catch past episodes show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Fri, 8 January 2021
In episode 253 of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert kick off the show with Roku's possible purchase of Quibi content (yes, that Quibi). Roku, whose stock has appreciated over 1,000 percent in just a few years, is taking its playbook directly from the Netflix content model. There is a podcasting gold rush and it looks like it may turn out to be a two-company party (Amazon vs. Spotify). But the opportunity isn't just podcasting, but all audio content. 2021 may be the year of text to audio. Media and content purchases went crazy this week, with MARQUE buying Closet Full of Cash, Sykes buying The Penny Hoarder, and Wyndham Destinations buying Travel + Leisure. Is this just the start? Uh...short answer is yes. Rants and raves include a movement from monthly to quarterly subscriptions and Joe's call for another look at print media. Robert discusses the implications of the new Clubhouse social media app and the case for two spaces after a period. This week's sponsor: CXL Institute Catch past episodes and episode show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. |
Thu, 17 December 2020
This Old Marketing will never be the same. This episode is taken over by Jay Acunzo, who goes inside how the podcast is made, including the early days, the process and the minimal success (and major failures) of Pulizzi and Rose. Special thanks to Jay for spending one agonizing hour with This Old Marketing. Find Jay at 3 Clips with Jay Acunzo (podcasters take you inside their best work) and Growable Shows -- Jay's course on show development and growth for marketers. ------ Subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.
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Fri, 11 December 2020
In this episode, the FTC sues Facebook for illegal monopolization. Thanks Captain Obvious! For decades, as newspapers declined, local news suffered. The University of Kansas found a solution, but Joe and Robert feel corporate dollars could be the real savior. KFC launches a Lifetime mini-movie starring Mario Lopez. Joe and Robert simply can't wait to see it. Substack is on fire! More and more journalists and reporters are flocking to the email subscription platform. Is this a good thing? A 2020 "year in review" finds that audio wins, paid subscription busted out, and email remains the first-party data champ. Robert raves about Bob Dylan's $300 million dollar content sale and comments on Frameworks and Flywheels. Joe rants about Polska Press being purchased by an organization owned by the state. This Week's Sponsor: Content Marketing University ------ Subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. |
Thu, 26 November 2020
In this special Turkey Day episode, Joe and Robert cover some touchy brand communication issues, including how some brands like Oreo and Snickers are having fun with Twitter's "disputed claims." In addition, the boys spend plenty of time talking about how "the vid" has accelerated major changes in content marketing and e-commerce media. This Week's Sponsor: Content Marketing University ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. |
Thu, 12 November 2020
Morning Brew sells its email subscription juggernaut for $75 million, building the email newsletter model for all the follow. The New York Times digital subscription business goes boom boom, while text-to-speech is the next big thing you've never "heard" of. And Beyonce decides to form a huge content partnership with Peloton instead of being interviewed on the This Old Marketing podcast. Robert raves about Philip Kotler's new blog and Adobe acquiring WorkFront. Joe raves about Netflix starting a programmed channel and how Twitch is not just for gamers anymore. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. |
Thu, 29 October 2020
Yes, the big marketing predictions episode if finally here. Joe and Robert answer: - What will happen to the martech industry? - What big names will be bought and sold in 2021? - Who wins in content marketing...and who loses? - What does the future of in-person events look like? And don't worry...they cover the news as well...with a (probably final) Quibi update, as well as a great case study from The Dodo. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. |
Thu, 15 October 2020
The boys kick off the show with highlights from the just finished Content Marketing World 2020. The streaming wars have begun. Disney has committed to it. Amazon and Apple are dabbling in it. But Netflix owns it. An AMC purchase (who might run out of cash by the end of the year) could be how it levels up. In other news, Facebook is the most distrusted social media platform (go figure), and Yelp adds a new "racist behavior exists here" component (which could be good but could also go wildly wrong). Robert has a new Quibi update (it's not good for Quibi) and raves (and rants) about Kraft's new commercial. Joe raves about Amazon's new print catalog and believes Juggernaut has it figured out when it comes to email newsletters. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.
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Thu, 1 October 2020
In this very special episode, Joe and Robert talk about Content Marketing World's 10 year anniversary, the changes in content marketing, and what should happen to the industry. News stories include TikTok's sale. Will it go through and when will that be? In addition, it looks like Google is going to bail out the entire publishing industry. And, of course, the boys discuss who is going to win the Cowboys/Browns game and what's on the line. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. |
Thu, 17 September 2020
The TikTok/Oracle deal comes under scrutiny, but both Joe and Robert think the deal with absolutely go through, especially while TikTok's numbers continue to grow. Facebook is getting in the email marketing business. Will they buy a business or consumer-side email marketing company, or go organic? The Taboola/Outbrain deal is off the table. The boys discuss why this happened and what's the future for the tech. And why are Google results always so old? Ryan Law discusses why businesses need to look at the second-mover advantage of search results. In rants and raves, Joe applauds the new Accidentally Wes Anderson book, while Robert laments zero-party data. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. |
Thu, 3 September 2020
Facebook makes an announcement about curbing political ads, but still has a major problem with false organic content, as Russia again infiltrates the site. LEGO leverages user-generated content as new product development, while CVS launches a new media network. In rants and raves, Adweek buys Target Marketing and Publishing Executive, Facebook's CMO resigns to create more diversity, and Mattress Firm launches Sleep.com. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. |
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