Fri, 13 June 2025
Joe and Robert break down Mary Meeker's "Future of AI" report and discuss the biggest opportunities and threats for marketers and creators in the future. Disney sues Midjourney in yet another lawsuit against AI companies. When will it stop and why should we care? And Meta invests $15 billion more in AI, trying to catch up in the AI race. In winners and losers, Joe discusses how to get found in AI searches and Robert talks about the failed mainstream media with the LA coverage. Rants and raves include a new creator economy lobbying group from MatPat and a boost to musical theater. ----- This week's links: Meta Makes $15 Billion Bet on AGI How to Get Found in AI Search [Chart] ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com.
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Fri, 6 June 2025
Did someone say McDonald's is bringing back snack wraps? In other news, who knew that artificial intelligence would force brands and publishers toward an indie-creator model? If Google AI is undermining journalism, perhaps the way out is through the individual human creator. In another AI scandal, Builder.ai collapses, even with a large sum of money invested by Microsoft. And Netflix adds advertising to its IP. Good decision? Winners and losers include Ohio Bike Week and ELF/Hailey Bieber. Rants and raves include WaPo's new mission statement and the new NYTimes lawsuit against ChatGPT. ----- This week's links: Google AI Mode Undermining Journalism Chain Restaurants Go Nostalgia ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com.
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Fri, 30 May 2025
AI is again in the headlines this week with Anthropic announcing that its AI will do anything to survive...even bust you for cheating on your wife. AI layoffs are starting to hit home. It's almost to the point that people are being laid off "by" AI itself. Joe and Robert uncover the truth. Rand Fishkin discusses 10 ways to understand no-click search...and it's mostly stuff we can actually do. And long live print, as Microsoft launches a new print publication. Winners and losers include LinkedIn commenting and Duolingo. Rants and raves include the new Bitcoin treasury fad and AI Agent pitch decks. ----- This week's links: Anthropic AI Resorts to Blackmail Print is Dead. Long Live Print. Duolingo CEO Retraces AI Announcement Businesses Go On Bitcoin Buying Spree ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world’s most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 23 May 2025
Google's big marketing event was an explosion of AI - a new home screen, more agents, AI video and even smart bidding. Why? Google's main revenue stream (search ads) is in big trouble. Is Google going the way of the yellow pages? The boys ponder. And Apple is in trouble too. OpenAI buys IO, run by the designer behind the iPhone. It seems that OpenAI is going into the hardware business, with their sights directly on Apple. In other news, a major newspaper releases the books of the year without real books and Netflix steps in to syndicate Sesame Street. Winners and losers include a furniture store and Peloton. Rants and raves include AI use by writers and the idea of growth marketing. ----- This week's links: Major Newspaper Creates Fake Books Netflix to Syndicate Sesame Street ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world’s most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 16 May 2025
The boys have finally jumped the shark with this episode. But first, Mark Zuckerberg declares war on the advertising industry. Meta's AI Do-It-Yourself tool will either win big or be fly by night. There is no middle ground. The BBC will push its mission and content into TikTok and Instagram. But is it too late to fight disinformation? Max becomes HBO Max (again). It will be just HBO in 15 to 18 months. Marketing winners are Nutter Butter and Warner Brothers. Rants and commentary include AEO and Sperm Racing (yep...you saw that right). ----- This week's links: Zuckerberg's War on Advertising Warner Brothers and Leveraging IP ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world’s most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 9 May 2025
Buckle up! AI is driving now. Zuckerberg at Meta AI doubles down on their cure for loneliness and more friends, but have taken out any sort of safety precautions. We need to be worried. Very worried. Trump wants to tariff the movie business. Tell me exactly how that would work please? And Virginia signs a social media scrolling reduction that won't reduce scrolling. Winners and losers include LEGO and Warren Buffett. Rants and raves include Disney's new park and the White House social media effort. ----- This week's links: ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world’s most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 2 May 2025
Special episode breaking down the state of content creators, content entrepreneurs and how marketers fit in. Including:
Here's a link to the complete study. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world’s most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 25 April 2025
As Tariffs hang over the US Advertising industry, more companies start to look internal. That means internal communications, internal influencers, owned media and more. Could Trump's Tariffs be a boon for content marketers? Google loses their online advertising monopoly case. The boys put on their prediction hats to let you know what will happen. A judge has blocked the termination of VOA. But is it too late? Joe thinks it is. And Ryan Coogler's movie deal gives marketers and creators a lot to think about. Winners and losers include the American people and Diary of a CEO podcast. Rants and raves include Google's cookies and the uber wealthy. This week's links: America Gives Up on Fact Checking America's Riches Households Have Banner Year ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world’s most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 18 April 2025
The boys are back with news that OpenAI (led by Sam Altman) is considering a social media platform that may compete with Elon's Twitter/X. Let's face it...we know what this is really about. Joe and Robert bring it home for you. META's big lawsuit with the FTC gets started. Did Zuckerberg grease the skids enough to get this one through? Creator Economy jobs (aka content marketing) are up, up, up. Why is that? And the top Gen AI use cases don't involve marketing. Marketing winners and losers include databases and Twinkies. Rants and raves include Superman and faith-based billboards. This week's links: OpenAI to Launch Social Platform? Creator Economy Jobs on the Up ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world’s most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 11 April 2025
Has AI finally killed search? Does Google even matter anymore? Must we now build our content on rented land? The boys go through each of these questions and talk about if "do not build your house on rented land" is still a thing. In other news, the TikTok deal is delayed (again). In marketing winners and losers, Joe takes on the Catholic church while Robert gushes over Duolingo. Rants and raves includes London's takedown of Leon, while the Shopify CEO tells employees to do an AI check. This week's links: Catholic Church Needs a Change London Taking Down Telsa with Ads ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world’s most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 4 April 2025
Possibly our dumbest episode yet. Joe and Robert go deep into the dumbery to try to make sense of an incredibly weird (and dumb) week. TikTok is for sale. No it's not. Maybe it is. Will we know this week? Elon Musk merges his two companies into one, creating the dumbest valuation in the history of corporate mergers. And META's AI steals a bunch of copyrighted books. Heck, they've probably already stolen this podcast. Marketing losers include vibe marketing and Hooters. Raves and commentary include Gartner and Chris Ross and how the tariffs will affect marketing spending. This week's links: Ghibli Effect Takes Over ChatGPT ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 28 March 2025
A very special episode on what makes a successful content marketer or content creator. Robert and Joe talk about what works today to successfully build and monetize an audience with these five keys. 1. For marketers, setting a clear goal up front - sales, savings or sunshine and then find a measurement tool that aligns with current corporate measurement. From the creator side, what's my goal? You exit at the beginning. ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 21 March 2025
New data suggests that advertising growth is slowing. Overall marketing is soon to follow. Will the current political environment drive us into a marketing recession? Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei proclaims that AI will take over all coding in the next year. Robert takes offense and the boys talk about the reasons these types of proclamations are made. And is AI slop a brute force attack on the major platforms? The point? AI content is taking over YouTube, TikTok and Facebook and the platforms simply don't care. Marketing losers are Unilever and the NFL. Rants are the AI-ification of press and the killing of Voice of America. This week's links: Anthropic CEO Predicts AI Coding Takeover ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 14 March 2025
The boys are back and the buys are heating up. Food-delivery startup Wonder purchased Tastemade, now boasting content creation to meal preparation to delivery all in one. Is more on the way? We think so. Spotify paid $5 billion dollars to indie creators last year. Is it better to go outside the labels than sign with a big agency? And Unilever ups their social media budget to 30 to 50 percent of total marketing budget...all for targeted local influencers. But did they forget about employees? Marketing winners and losers include Southwest Airlines and CMO tenure. Rants and raves include Substack and shadow AI. This week's links: Are Big Music Labels Valuable? Unilever Doubles Down on Influencers Brands Are Launching Substacks ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 7 March 2025
The boys are back with commentary on the death of media. It's a sad case on both political spectrum. And the opportunity in the future belongs to non-media brands. Let's see what happens. In other news, more and more creators are going full AI. How close is it to real, or does that even matter? Marketing winners and losers include Disney and Trump's Gold card. Rants and raves include travel within the US and Meta testing out agents in advertising. This week's links: The Media's Credibility Has Bottomed Creators Are Now Going Full AI Disney Starts Killing Off News Media Meta Testing AI Agents for Business Ads ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gez Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. |
Fri, 28 February 2025
The boys kick off the show with Dow Jones news and their AI content marketplace of 5,000 publishers. The real news? Vertical content opportunities using proprietary LLMs may ultimately steal the show for B2B content creators. Differentiation is the key coming from B2B speakers at a recent marketing event. The move from company creators to individuals is in full force. And is Substack the new Instagram for smaller creators? Winners and losers include bars in Key West, Levi's and UTC. Rants and raves include MSNBC's big shift, Jeff Bezos, X and Forrester. This week's links: Dow Jones and Content Marketplace Is Substack the New Instagram? UTC Expands Marketing Division How to Use X Advertising By Forrester ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
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Fri, 21 February 2025
Reddit announced quarterly results and the stock got hammered. Is Google's changing algorithm to blame? And, if it is, could Google be primed to acquire the 9th largest website on the planet? In other news, episodic video programs and shows are getting more opportunities for syndication. But with so many shows out there, should brands look at partnering with a creator before creating their own content? Winners and losers include Allstate and Kai Cenat. Rants and raves include the Associated Press and Major League Baseball. This week's links: Create a Series Is the New Mandate Kai Cenat to Launch Streaming University ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
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Fri, 14 February 2025
Our Super Bowl predictions were dead on, as Joe predicted an Eagles win and Robert predicted a Kendrick Lamar controversy. But more importantly, who were the advertising winners and losers? And...is the Super Bowl the last remaining moment where everyone comes together to watch television at the same time? In other news, BuzzFeed launches a social media network called BF Island. We already predict extinction. And do paywalls work? They do...sort of. Marketing winners include partnerships and ChatGPT. Rants and raves include the end of book blurbs and Welch's content marketing. ----- This week's news links: Big Ratings Win for Super Bowl BuzzFeed Launches Social Media App ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
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Fri, 7 February 2025
It's Super Bowl week and the boys make their predictions. Speaking of the Super Bowl, the boys talk about the ads, the value, and what a Super Bowl ad truly costs. And...will there be any winners? Robert does a comparison between OpenAI's deep research and the corresponding Google product. Which one is better and what should marketers do? Winners and losers include Nielsen and Hertz communications. Rants and raves include AMO and Trump Coin. ----- This week's news links: Deep Research Next Big OpenAI Move ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
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Fri, 31 January 2025
Man you cappin'. This week, DeepSeek shocks the AI industry (and the world) with its cheaper more efficient model. What comes next for the industry? The buyers line up for TikTok, but is the US Government playing favorites? And Substack is paying cash for TikTok creators to make the switch. Marketing winners include Timothee Chalamet and the TGL golf league. Rants and raves include Chris Sacca (on the Tim Ferriss pod), creating moments, and the return of Nike. ----- This week's news links: Why Is Everyone Freaking Out Over DeepSeek? White House In Talks with Oracle ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
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Fri, 24 January 2025
The boys return with a cornucopia of news. TikTok returns (or did it?). We discuss what is really going on with the Chinese-owned app, whether a US company will buy them, and which one actually will. In other news, Instagram is throwing money at creators (but needs a real model), while META goes from moderated news to community news (but not for ads). In winners and losers, Edelman is out with their Trust Barometer, and Andrew Ross Sorkin has tomorrow's media model. In rants and raves, Anthropic's CEO predicts the future and the only good news coverage of the LA fires was local. ----- This week's news links: China Comments on TikTok Ownership Meta Announces Community Notes Meta's Community Notes Don't Include Ads Prof G with Andrew Ross Sorkin ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
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Fri, 17 January 2025
The boys go through six different ways that content marketing professionals can be "content marketing meh" in 2025. They include:
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Fri, 10 January 2025
META's plan to unleash AI Bots onto their social media sites is just a first step into the majority of the content we engage with being synthetic. The boys have more thoughts on this. How involved will Elon be with TikTok's future? More works are headed to the public domain, including Popeye and TinTin. Is there an opportunity for brands here? Finally, the boys discuss the fastest growing marketing roles. Winners and losers include AI-free and NFL red zone. Rants and raves include the Michael Lewis podcast and Pornhub. ----- This week's links: Popeye and TinTin to Public Domain Meta's Plan to Unleash AI Bots Fastest Growing Marketing Roles Greg Isenberg's AI Predictions ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
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Fri, 3 January 2025
A very special This Old Marketing Predictions' episode. Not only do we cover our 2025 predictions of:
But we review our 2024 predictions as well as our NFL season-review predictions. How did we score? Listen to find out. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
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