This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

Man you cappin'. This week, DeepSeek shocks the AI industry (and the world) with its cheaper more efficient model. What comes next for the industry?

The buyers line up for TikTok, but is the US Government playing favorites?

And Substack is paying cash for TikTok creators to make the switch.

Marketing winners include Timothee Chalamet and the TGL golf league.

Rants and raves include Chris Sacca (on the Tim Ferriss pod), creating moments, and the return of Nike.

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This week's news links:

The Real DeepSeek

Why Is Everyone Freaking Out Over DeepSeek?

Trump, TikTok and Socialism

White House In Talks with Oracle

Substack Paying $20 Million

The TGL Golf League

Chalamet Goes Gorilla

Chris Sacca on Tim Ferriss

Nike's Destruction

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With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue. 

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

The boys return with a cornucopia of news. 

TikTok returns (or did it?). We discuss what is really going on with the Chinese-owned app, whether a US company will buy them, and which one actually will.

In other news, Instagram is throwing money at creators (but needs a real model), while META goes from moderated news to community news (but not for ads).

In winners and losers, Edelman is out with their Trust Barometer, and Andrew Ross Sorkin has tomorrow's media model.

In rants and raves, Anthropic's CEO predicts the future and the only good news coverage of the LA fires was local.

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This week's news links:

The TikTok Ban Update

China Comments on TikTok Ownership

RedNote

Instagram Throws Money

Meta Announces Community Notes

Meta's Community Notes Don't Include Ads

Edelman Trust Barometer

Prof G with Andrew Ross Sorkin

Inside Anthropic's AI Race

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This week's sponsor:

With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now.

But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue. 

 - Hubspot.com/marketers

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

The boys go through six different ways that content marketing professionals can be "content marketing meh" in 2025. They include:

  • Create content on more than three platforms
  • Create content in a highly competitive area
  • Lean heavily into AI tools to create content
  • Put all your influence efforts into finding external influencers and none on building internal influence
  • Focus on making sure your tech stack is bulletproof and pour more time and effort into making things automated
  • Brand Schmand you should really focus on lead gen….

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This week's sponsor:

With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now.

But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue. 

 - Hubspot.com/marketers

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

META's plan to unleash AI Bots onto their social media sites is just a first step into the majority of the content we engage with being synthetic. The boys have more thoughts on this.

How involved will Elon be with TikTok's future?

More works are headed to the public domain, including Popeye and TinTin. Is there an opportunity for brands here?

Finally, the boys discuss the fastest growing marketing roles.

Winners and losers include AI-free and NFL red zone.

Rants and raves include the Michael Lewis podcast and Pornhub.

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This week's links:

TikTok's CEO and Elon Talk

Popeye and TinTin to Public Domain

Meta's Plan to Unleash AI Bots

Fastest Growing Marketing Roles

Greg Isenberg's AI Predictions

NFL Red Zone and Commercials

Against the Rules Podcast

Pornhub Blocked in South

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This week's sponsor:

With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now.

But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue. 

 - Hubspot.com/marketers

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

A very special This Old Marketing Predictions' episode.

Not only do we cover our 2025 predictions of:

  • Where will Bluesky Be?
  • The Future of X
  • X Buys Truth Social
  • GENAI Stumbles
  • Four (4) Trillion Dollars Companies in 2025
  • The 2025 Disease We All Saw Coming
  • TikTok Will Not Be Banned
  • The Donald Trump Presidency
  • The Failure of Podcasts

But we review our 2024 predictions as well as our NFL season-review predictions.

How did we score? Listen to find out.

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This week's sponsor:

With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now.

But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue. 

 - Hubspot.com/marketers

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Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com.

Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there.

Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe.

Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Direct download: 461.output.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

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