This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose (Content Marketing)

Another very special episode of This Old Marketing...this time, without Robert Rose. Yes...this episode features Joe Pulizzi talking about unconventional content marketing strategies for 2025.

Joe discusses how to leverage ChatGPT for persona building, treating employees as creators, leveraging more email and physical events, a big yes to print and much, much more.

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A special This Old Marketing podcast episode featuring the one and only Robert Rose (with no Joe Pulizzi). 

In this special solo episode, Robert takes a deep dive into the state of marketing as we approach the end of 2024. As marketers, we’ve spent the last 25 years adapting to paradigm-shifting technologies — from the internet and social media to mobile computing. But now, we’re navigating the latest disruptor: Generative AI.

Robert explores the concept of "Valuable Friction," the deliberate resistance that slows us down, fostering critical thinking and creativity. In an industry obsessed with efficiency and automation, are we losing the joy and creativity that make marketing truly impactful? This episode challenges the status quo and asks: Are we outsourcing our human spark to technology, or are we using it to amplify our creative potential?

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Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue. 

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this special episode Robert and Joe ask each other four secret questions.

The answers will surprise you. The boys cover investing, travel, biggest regrets, bigger dreams and what's next in marketing and beyond.

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growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The boys do a debrief of why Donald Trump beat Kamala Harris in the 2024 Presidential election. We can talk policies and character, but it's possible the Trump campaign outmarketed Harris.

Winners and losers include Goldfish Crackers and the Nomad Capitalist.

Rants and raves include ChatGPT Search and the Content Creator/Influencer.

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This week's links:

A Trump Second Term

Will Trump Ban TikTok?

Goldfish Crackers and Marketing

The Nomad Capitalist

ChatGPT Search

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With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now.

But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue. 

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

A continuing story on the content gaps available in local news. With more people trusting businesses than ever before, could this be the biggest content marketing opportunity in history?

In other news, The Washington Post makes a horrible strategic decision to kill endorsements, costing them over 200,000 subscribers.

Microsoft, Google and Apple report incredible earnings on the back of AI.

And young TikTok influencers are finding it hard to maintain a real life while being an online content creator. Is the worst to come?

Winners and losers include Strauss and the Dallas Cowboys.

Rants and raves include another newsletter acquisition and ghost jobs.

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This week's links:

Washington Posts Kills Endorsements

Local News Content Gap

Microsoft Earnings Grow

TikTok High School Influencers

The NFL Goes Simpsons

Strauss Sponsorship with MLB

Another Newsletter Acquisition

Ghost Jobs

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But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

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hello to better work.

With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue. 

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The boys go deep into CMI's 2025 content marketing research report.

While the results look pretty similar to last year's report, Joe and Robert offer some prescriptions for 2025 content marketing strategies, including:

  • Think more local in 2025
  • Who's your "with"?
  • Paid promotion of content for the win
  • Less is more
  • Time to kill some things
  • Let's get risky in 2025

See the full research here.

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But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects
and customers.

And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send
your revenue soaring.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The boys are back with breaking news. Semrush, the online visibility company, purchases Search Engine Land and MarTech (plus all the conferences). Is this the start of acquisition season?

Americans' trust in media sinks to an all-time low. Or did it? Actually, there's a big opportunity for content marketers here.

TikTok's own research reveals it's hurting kids. What are we going to do about it?

And author James Patterson launches a new channel on, of all places, Substack.

Winners and losers include Nick Chubb, Apple's killing of social apps and content creator deaths.

Rants and raves include Steven Pressfield and an AI article.

This week's links:

Semrush Acquires Third Door Media

Americans' Trust at All-Time Low

TikTok's Horrible New Research

James Patterson Launches Substack

Nick Chubb Tells All

Did Apple Kill Social Apps?

Content Creator Falls to Death

AI Is Going to Kill Advertising

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With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now.

But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects
and customers.

And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send
your revenue soaring.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Joe and Robert unpack Google's NotebookLM and how the AI audio machine has taken over the internet. Listen to the sample and see if you think it's usable.

In other Google news, the DOJ is trying to break up Google into smaller pieces for better competition. This happens at the same time Google is losing its strength in the search market.

And someone used Meta's glasses to instantly dox strangers. Should we be scared? Yes...yes we should.

Winners and losers include Mountain Dew and Wordpress.

Rants and raves include TikTok and CMI's latest benchmark study.

This week's links:

Google's Notebook LM

Google Faces the DOJ

Google's Domination as Search Leader Going Away?

Meta's Glasses Used to Dox Strangers

Mountain Dew's New Brand

WordPress Community In Trouble?

TikTok Sued Again

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With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now.

But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects
and customers.

And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send
your revenue soaring.

 - Hubspot.com/

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

A special episode of This Old Marketing where Joe and Robert answer AI and content marketing questions from some of the world leaders of marketing. 

Find your answers to content marketing spending, how AI is affecting content marketing, advice for new marketers, how to handle a personal brand in a business, how much to invest into internal content creators and much, much more.

Special thanks to our marketing experts:

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With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now.

But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible
growth feel impossibly easy.

Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and
hello to better work.

Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects
and customers.

And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send
your revenue soaring.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Our old friend Leon rolls back another X feature and the haters go crazy. At the same time, X releases their Global Transparency Report (which is anything but transparent).

The New York Times unveils a plan to sell audio subscriptions via Apple Music and Spotify. The boys aren't sure the plan has merit (uh, data concerns anyone?).

And The Onion creates a membership program with a print newspaper at the center. Joe is very happy about this.

Winners and losers include Tim Walz and LinkedIn's AI rollout.

Rants and raves include new books from Brian Piper and Pam Didner and a Dreamforce appearance from John Mulaney.

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This week's links:

X and Blocked Users

X's Global Transparency Report

New York Times to Sell Pod Subs

Why the Onion Launched a Membership Program

Tim Walz's YouTube Show

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

OpenAI launches the "Strawberry" version within ChatGPT claiming better reasoning and complex thinking. Joe and Robert take it to the test.

TikTok heads back to court with a January 19th ban date looming. Joe predicts what will happen.

And Instagram launches a version for teens only. Is it enough?

Finally, MrBeast "leaks" his personal YouTube production manual. Is there gold within?

Winners and losers include Sun Studio and the 2024 Content Marketing Award winner.

Rants and raves include MAICON's headsets and CMI's marketing career study.

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This week's links:

OpenAI's Strawberry Is Scary Good at Deception

TikTok Goes to Court

Inst Launches Teen Accounts

MrBeast's Playbook Uncovered

MrBeast: How to Succeed at YouTube Playbook

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this special episode, Joe and Robert talk about the future of AI in marketing and how each of them use AI for both content creation and marketing ideation.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden Administration pressured Facebook to censor COVID comments while Elon Musk gets X banned in Brazil.

In better news, the Kelce brothers land a $100 million dollar deal with Amazon. The boys talk about how the licensing model has changed in just the past two years.

Winners and losers include Mammoth Cave National Park and Yelp.

Rants and raves include LEGO and Adweek.

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This week's links:

Zuck's Words Against Biden

Brazil Bans X

Kelce's Deal with Amazon

Mammoth Cave on Facebook

Yelp's Case Against Google

Search Fragmentation on Adweek

LEGO's Big Jump

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

We have all the answers for what's going to happen in the NFL this year. This special episode includes:

  1. 2024 New Kickoff Rules
  2. AFC/NFC Top 4 and Championships
  3. Super Bowl and Who Wins
  4. Cowboys and Browns Final Records
  5. MVP Prediction

And a final bet you don't want to miss.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The boys review how the DNC has courted creators and developed "content moments" that are going viral.

Chick-Fil-A just launched a streaming strategy and Procreate vows to never leverage generative AI.

Wins and losses include the Savannah Bananas and Snoop Dogg.

Rants and raves include Robert's take on DNC creators while Joe talks about the NSYNC and Deadpool integration.

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This week's links:

The DNC Finally "Gets" Content

Chick-Fil-A Launches Streaming Service

Procreate Says No to Gen AI

Snoop & Solo Brands Make Up

Bananas Ink TV Deal

NSYNC Takes Off w/Deadpool Integration

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

While X continues to sue advertisers and launch products in chaos, Reddit has risen to the top of the social media sandlot (with the help of Google).

Winners and losers include Heineken NA and the Queensland Symphony Orchestra.

Rants and raves include the Savannah Bananas and surveillance pricing.

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This week's links:

X Calls for Ad Industry Reset

Ad Group Dismantles

Xai launches Chaotic Image Generator

Publishers Flock to Reddit

Heineken's Partnership with US Open Tennis

Symphony Orchestra's Bad AI Play

WTF Is Surveillance Pricing?

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In a desperation move, X decides the best way to get advertisers back to the platform is to sue them.

In obvious news, a judge rules that Google is an illegal monopoly. The boys talk about what the repercussions are with this ruling, and what Apple's role will be.

Speaking of Google (and X), Google ads seem to be popping up on Elon's platform. Curious indeed.

In winners and losers, the Harris campaign is kicking butt on social while the Army fails with The Rock.

In rants and raves, Robert changes his mind on the Olympics and Joe thinks the next wave of content marketing is internal creators.

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This week's links:

Google Is a Monopoly

X Files Suit Against Advertisers

Google Ads End Up on X

Kamala Social Media Masterclass

The Army Fails with The Rock

The Olympics and TikTok

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this episode the boys cover an incredible content marketing case study in New York's largest hospital system.

Reddit is now blocking big search engines who want its unique content...unless they pay up (which they will).

And Elon is being Elon, violating his own content policy on X. Here we go again.

Hits and misses include Bandit Running and Flavor Flav.

Rants and raves include James Patterson and Google's new AI ad.

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This week's links:

Reddit Blocks Search Engines

Elon Musk Violates X Policy

Northwell Health Content Marketing Studio

Bandit's Unsponsored Project

Flavor Flav and US Water Polo

Google's Dumb AI Ad

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

At long last, Google seems to do a 180 on its third-party cookie policy. What does this mean for marketers and advertisers?

META introduces Llama 3 for developers, apparently giving away its AI technology and investment for free. Could this be for real or is it a Zuckerberg trick?

And does Spotify use podcasts for loyalty first?

Hits and misses include Deadpool and Heinz and Informa's purchase of the Cannes Festival.

Rants and raves include British Airways and Field & Stream magazine.

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This week's links:

Google Leaves Cookie Policy

Llama 3.1 Launch

Spotify's Bet on Podcasts

Informa Buys Cannes

Heinz Partners with Deadpool

Country Music Stars Buy Field & Stream

British Airways Flight Video

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

This week Taboola does a big deal with Apple to sell their advertising space. Great for Taboola, but what does this message for Apple?

Dax Shepard does an $80 million dollar podcast deal with Amazon. Is Amazon going after Spotify and YouTube for podcast dominance?

And CMO's are under huge pressure, as stated by the latest research. Are we actually in a marketing recession?

Rants and raves include VidCon Baltimore and StickerMule.

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This week's links:

Ken Griffin Buys Dinosaur

Taboola to Sell Apple Ads

Dax Shepard Does Deal with Amazon's Wondery

CMOs Under Pressure

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Has the content creator/influencer business model gone bearish? Glamour seems to think so. We  disagree.

The Paramount/Skydance deal is finally done...we think.

Spotify is beginning to court more video podcasts. Is it working in their fight against YouTube?

And BusinessWeek has a 120-page print issue on the way. Does this mean a new opportunity in print?

Wins and losses include ArtBotAI and Mohawk Chevy. Rants and raves include Trump speaking at the Bitcoin Conference and AI spammers.

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This week's links:

Power Slap and Dana White

Paramount Skydance Deal

Spotify's Continuing Shift to Video

Influencers Aren't Getting Famous Like They Used To

BusinessWeek's Print Move

Mohawk Chevy on TikTok

ArtBotAI

Trump to Speak at Bitcoin Conference

The Rise of AI Content

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

A special condensed episode of This Old Marketing. We cover the latest supreme court decision on social media. Good decision or more of the same?

And do the brand new rules of marketing and advertising include content marketing? If content marketing becomes marketing, what happens to the discipline?

Rants and raves include mxmtoon and research from Meta and Kantar.

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This week's links:

Supreme Court Sends Social Media Back to States

Brand New Rules of Advertising

mxmtoon

Research from Meta and Kantar

One Million Checkboxes

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In breaking news, the Supreme Court is allowing the White House to press social media companies to remove disinformation. Did this really need to go to court in the first place?

Time strikes a deal with OpenAI, while the recording industry files suit against Suno AI and Uncharted Labs citing copyright infringement.

And...have we learned anything from moving text to video online?

Hits and misses include the Verizon logo and the Toys R Us commercial produced with OpenAI.

Rants and raves include the Olympics and AI forgetting to read the room.

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This week's links:

Supreme Court Ruling on Social Media

Time Strikes Deal with OpenAI

Recording Industry Sues Sona

We Learned the Wrong Lessons from Video

Verizon's New Logo

Toys R Us's AI Ad

Al Michaels' AI Voice at the Olympics

AI Execs Forget to Read the Room

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

While Wells Fargo is into employee surveillance, the US Surgeon General pushes for a warning on social media much like those on cigarette packages.

Forbes threatens Perplexity with legal action, while TikTok debuts humanlike AI-generated avatars for advertising.

Hits and misses include Oscar Mayer and American Express.

Rants and raves include indie print and the Cannes Lions award winners.

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Wells Fargo Fires Employees

Surgeon General and Social Media

Forbes Threatens Perplexity

TikTok Debuts AI Ad Features

Oscar Mayer Bacon Ad

Cannes Lions 2024

High-End Indie Print Publications

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Apple's big developer conference meeting saw the launch of IOS 18 and Apple Intelligence? Apple decided to partner with OpenAI and not Google for their AI integration. Is this a big miss for Google Gemini? 

Plus, Adobe and Meta have big terms and conditions issues this week.

Hits and misses include OpenAI, Google and Nathan's hot dogs.

Rants and raves include "Infectious Generosity" by Chris Anderson and yet another AI content marketing launch.

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Adobe's Missed Terms

Adobe's Apology

META's content problems with Europe

Apple Intelligence Is Launched

Joey Chestnut and Nathan's Hot Dogs

AI Content Marketing Agent

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Twitter/X leans into NSFW content and vertical video. Is this the sign of a turnaround or more desperate measures to stay alive? Robert and Joe take opposite sides and fight, fight, fight.

Spotify's CEO makes comments about the cost of content being almost nothing. Should we care or should we boycott?

Hits include Four Seasons and 10 Cent Beer night.

Rants and raves include signals from Marcus Sheridan and Suits.

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Twitter/X Will Do Vertical Video

Spotify CEO Is Out of Touch

Facebook Going After Gen Z

10 Cent Beer Night - Craig Irons

Four Seasons PR Win

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Big news this week as leaked Google search API documents are released into the world. The TLDR? Google has been lying about how it formulates search results. What do we know? Google manipulates content like an editor of a media company would. But does it even matter?

AI scams are hitting a tipping point as we get closer to the US elections.

OpenAI inks two more content deals and Elon raises money for xAI.

Hits and misses include a home appliance store and Cheez-Its. 

Rants and raves include marketing agencies and GaryVee's commencement speech.

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The Google API Document Leak

Celebs Getting AI Scammed

Atlantic/Vox Ink Deal with OpenAI

Elon Raises $6 Billion for xAI

HBR Recognizes Creator Economy

Home Appliance Sales and Service

Marketing Agencies as Consultants

GaryVee's Commencement Address

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

While the world gets distracted by Scarlett Johansson's possible case against OpenAI, the AI giant continues to do deals with media companies. 

This time, Open AI signed a deal with News Corp (owners of WSJ) for $250 million over five years (reported). Who's next?

Trump Media's quarterly reported was more than a disaster, and yet the stock keeps going up.

And we have a nice disagreement about whether Chick-fil-A should embrace or fire their internal social media influencers. 

Hits and misses include GaryVee's new book and Coca-Cola lens.

Rants and raves include content marketing platforms and a nice rave for the Cleveland Guardians baseball team.

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OpenAI vs. Black Widow

OpenAI Signs Deal

Trump Media Report

Social Influencers and what to do

Coca-Cola Lens

GaryVee's Book Trailer

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

A special live recording of Joe and Robert with Philip Hernandez from the Haunted Attraction Network, recorded at Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) in Cleveland, Ohio on May 5th. Philip goes into detail about how he thinks about and creates content for the network, including the challenges and opportunities in social media content creation.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 11:25am EST

It was another crazy week in AI news.

On the heals of Google's AI announcement, OpenAI launches ChatGPT4 Omni (o). What does the new iteration mean for creators and marketers?

If that wasn't enough, TikTok is upgrading its algorithm with AI. Thank you (not so much).

And is the beef between Kendrick and Drake real? We think it's marketing.

Hits and misses include John Mulaney's new show and Prof G's podcast strategy.

Rants and raves include OEF's 100 Holes of Golf model and more on MarTech cuts.

This week's links:

OpenAI Releases Omni

TikTok Is Testing AI in Algo

The Drake/Kendrick Beef

John Mulaney's New Show

Prof G Markets Podcast

OEF's 100 Holes of Golf

MarTech Spending Falls

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In the latest social media soap opera, TikTok has sued the US Government over its potential "ban," bringing out the unconstitutional card. Is this just a stalling tactic? Yes...and it's working.

More money is flowing into the creator economy after big product successes from MrBeast and Logan Paul. But will the new algo changes be the end of big content creators?

And Hollywood continues to lack standards with AI. Is it simply too late?

Hits and misses include CEX and Joe Biden.

Rants and raves include Instagram and Meta.

This week's links:

TikTok Sues the US Government

MrBeast and Logal Paul Lead Creator Movement

Hollywood and AI

2024 Marketing Technology Landscape

Meta to Provide Advertisers with Auto Images

Instagram on Algo Change

 

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Joe and Robert do a deep dive into their CEX presentations...Joe's on the new business model for content creators and Robert's on the marketing MBA.

In the news, Instagram launches a new program that will highlight new content creators. They make it sound amazing. The problem is that this will hurt full-time content creators and content marketers.

Hits this week include Adidas and Phish (at the Sphere). Rants and raves include the trouble with books and third-party cookies.

This week's links:

Instagram and Twitch Roll Out New Algos

Amazon's Killer Quarterly Numbers

Adidas to Overinvest in Marketing

Phish at the Sphere

No One Buys Books

Yes, People Still Buy Books

Google's Cookie Delay

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In a whirlwind week on The Hill, a TikTok ultimatum (sell or be banned) passed the House, the Senate and was quickly signed by the President. What happens now?

META's quarterly results were outstanding...and then the stock dropped 20 percent. What happened?

Taylor Swift does her own deal with TikTok, making the executive team at UMG furious. Is this something for creators and marketers to follow?

Hits and misses include Cedar Point and Google.

Rants and raves include a big rant against Telsa marketing and an important reminder social media from Jay Clouse.

This week's links:

Biden Signs Bill Against TikTok

TikTok's Creator Economy Stares Into the Abyss

META Announces Earnings...Stock Sinks

Taylor Swift Goes Direct with TikTok

Google Fires Protesters

Cedar Point's Content Creators

Tesla's No Marketing Move

Jay Clouse on Social Media

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

John Deere's search for a new social media creator leads to an important conversation - are corporate social media handles dead?

Faced with possibly paying for the news, Google starts removing links to California news sites for some users. And the winner for the dumb move of the year goes to...

The VC market for creator startups is up the the first time in multiple quarters, while a group of TikTok influencers send a nasty gram to Joe Biden.

Hits and misses include Dove and AI and Caitlin Clark on SNL.

Rants and raves include gaming Spotify and the Chief Marketing Officer tenure.

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This week's links:

Google Won't Pay for News

John Deere Hunts for Chief Tractor Officer

Creator Startups and VCs

TikTok Influencers Send Letter to Joe Biden

Dove and AI

SNL and Caitlin Clark

CMO Tenures

Spotify and SEO

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Could marketers finally be waking up to the advantages of direct print? The relaunch of some high-profile magazines, and the launch of Robinhood's new print magazine leads our discussion.

In other news, Alphabet is reportedly looking at acquiring Hubspot and a new privacy bill is being drafted in Congress.

And...is synthetic AI training data setting us up for disaster?

Hits and misses include Jack Conte and Suno.ai. Rants and raves include creators Kelsey Russell and Andrew Huberman.

And Joe's new book is out...get a copy here: https://www.joepulizzi.com/books/content-entrepreneur/

This week's links:

Women's NCAA Ratings Bonanza

Google/Hubspot Deal

New Privacy Bill

Nylon Re-launches in Print

Robinhood Creates Media Arm

Tech Giants and AI Training Data

Jack Conte's SXSW Presentation - The Death of the Follower

Kelsey Russell and Print Newspapers

Crisis Communications and Alex Huberman

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Robert and Joe run through the business books that have made the most impact on their lives and careers. They include:

  • Marketing Management – Philip Kotler
  • Discovery Driven Growth  – Rita Gunther McGrath
  • Different – Youngme Moon
  • How Will You Measure Your Life – Clayton Christensen
  • Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance – Robert Pirsig
  • Think & Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
  • Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen Covey
  • Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert Heinlein
  • IMC: Integrated Marketing Communication - Don Schultz
  • David & Goliath - Malcolm Gladwell

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

News this week as Florida governor Ron DeSantis signs a law restricting social media access for children. Is this the first step to full-on social media verification or just another fruitless attempt to tell people how to parent?

Trump's Truth Social goes public and hits meme stock territory. How long with the party last?

Spotify adds video learning to its platform. Is YouTube in Spotify's sights?

And print is back baby!

Hits and misses include a Ryan's World movie and Comscore. Rants and raves include rants against Accenture and Meta's Threads.

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This week's links:

Florida Age-Gating Law

Trump's Truth Social Meme Stock

Truth Social's Revenue Problem

Spotify Adds Video Learning

Print On the Move

Pew Research on Print

Comscore Deal

Ryan's World Movie

Accenture and Adobe AI Release

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this special episode #420, Joe and Robert dissect the upcoming Apple/Google deal for AI and the iPhone. Is this a sign of weakness for Apple or are they just buying time?

OpenAI's chatbot store is filling up with spam. Are you surprised?

And a group of publishing experts launch Authors Equity to give more rights back to authors. Uh, we don't think so.

Hits and misses include Liquid Death and Coca-Cola.

Rants and raves includes a full overview of the TikTok banning bill and why it's harder to become a creator today.

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This week's links:

Don Lemon Pivot Interview

Apple and Google to Partner on AI

OpenAI Spam

New Publishing Model Isn't Great

It's Harder to Become a Creator Today

No TikTok Bill

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

We are in post-social media and, now, a post-search environment. The next 12 months are critical to start getting your content assets in order for the AI Content wave.

The House passes a bill that could lead to a TikTok ban. Uh, we told you so. But does it really matter?

Google's Gemini AI refuses to answer political questions (among other things). This leads to a conversation on how AI Truth is coordinated and what we can do about it.

MrBeast tells everyone to slow down a bit...that less content is more. Thank you sir!

And OpenAI starts doing publisher deals. Hello Google circa 2002.

Hits and misses include Kate Middleton and Da'Vine Joy Randolph.

Rants and raves include Kara Swisher's new book (rant) and the quote by Sam Altman heard round the world.

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This week's links:

TikTok House Ban

Google Gemini Is Mum on Elections

MrBeast Slows Down

OpenAI Publisher Deals

Sam Altman and 95 Percent Quote

Da'Vine's Oscar Speech

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this special #ThisOldMarketing episode, Joe and Robert review their presentations from Social Media Marketing World 2024.

Robert shares his insights, including:

  • The Value of Relationships
  • The Product Content Mindset
  • The Point of View Architecture
  • The Trust Exercise - Audit Your Experiences

Joe runs through his secrets for content marketing success, including:

  • Building the Base
  • The Content Tilt
  • Acquiring Content Assets
  • Creators over Content
  • Pillar Content Projects
  • The NEW Print Opportunity
  • Email, Email, Email
  • The Content Revenue Model

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Another media company bites the dust. This time it's the once-darling Vice Media.

Is the news media business model broken or is there something else at work here?

A big supreme court case involving social media moderation is being reviewed by SCOTUS. Could it happen? We'll see this summer.

Is Google on death row? It's clear the product is getting worse. Will ChatGPT come to the rescue?

And Tyler Perry shelves his studio project because of Sora.

Hits and misses include Bitcoin and Air Canada.

Rants and raves involve the fractional CMO and a Florida law banning social media usage for youngsters.

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This week's links:

Supreme Court Social Media Case

Vice Media Shutting Down

Is Google Search Dying?

Tyler Perry Shelves Studio

Air Canada Is Stupid

The Fractional CMO

Florida Lawmakers Pass Social Law

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

It's been a crazy two weeks for artificial intelligence.

OpenAI officially launched Sora, the text-to-video tool. At the same time, Google launched their AI-version of Gemini inside workplace.

Is podcasting really a racket? Maybe it's just more of the same.

Hits and misses include Paramount's bad timing and Nvidia's HUGE quarter.

Rants and raves includes the NYTime's ad tool and Billy Joel's new AI video.

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OpenAI Launches Sora

Google Launches Gemini

The Podcast Business is a Racket

Paramount Lays off 800

Nvidia Booms with AI

NYTimes AI Ad Tool

Billy Joel's New AI Video

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this special Blossom episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the insights and secrets into creating a profitable content brand, for both content marketing and content creator goals.

Topics discussed include:

  • How to truly differentiate and grow an audience
  • How to create a content tilt
  • Do you build or buy?
  • Focus on creator, brand or content brand?
  • and many more content marketing insights

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The boys discuss Joe Rogan's new content deal with Spotify. Is this the future of podcast and YouTube deals, or is this just for the one percenters? Also, how should a brand approach this kind of deal?

Meta will label AI images across all their properties. Is this just a point in time or will it have lasting impact?

In addition, Meta cut off Facebook to developers. Like we didn't see that coming.

In hits and misses, Robert praises L'Oreal and misses on Taylor and the right. Joe hits on Spotify and audiobooks, and misses on Grant Cardone's new magazine.

Rants and raves include Billy Joel and B2B companies lack of big ideas.

This week's links:

Discount to CEX 2024 - Use Coupon Code "TOM"

Joe Rogan Deal with Spotify

Is Content Exclusivity Over?

Meta to Label AI Images

Facebook Cuts Out Developers

L'Oreal Hits Big

Taylor Swift Outrage

Billy Joel Writes Again

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Big tech CEOs ran to Washington to explain why they haven't protected US children.

YouTube and TikTok continue to dominate and grow in profit and usage. Is it imperative that all companies market on these channels today?

And George Carlin and Taylor Swift deepfakes dominate the news. Is there anything we can do about them or have we unleashed Pandora's box.

Rants and raves include small audience wins and a new place for the chief marketing officer.

This week's links:

Elmo's Wellness Check

Social Media Execs Explain Behavior to Congress

YouTube Revenues Soar

TikTok Usage Way Up

George Carlin Lawsuit

X Blocks Taylor Swift Search

UPS Scraps CEO

TikTok Usage Up with Minors

The State of the Creator Economy [Report]

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Netflix Q4 earnings show how far the company is ahead in the streaming wars...plus...their licensing deal with WWE vaults them into a live-events leadership position. So, what's next and what can we learn from their strategy?

Sports Illustrated is "mostly" dead. Here's a big opportunity for a brand like Nike or Under Armour to make a content marketing buy. Why isn't this happening more often?

And does the creator economy need a creators' union? The boys say no.

Rants and raves include Google finally killing off the cookie, while MrBeast goes to China.

This week's links:

Netflix Rocks Earnings

SI Almost Dead

Do We Need a Creators' Union?

G/O Media In Trouble

Google Finally Killing Cookies

MrBeast Goes to China

B.J. Novak Headlining Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) 2024

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Big news in media and marketing as Informa purchases a majority stake in TechTarget. Is their strategy of "focused scaling" correct for B2B?

Apple overhauls their podcast download system, sending podcast leaders into a panic over revised download numbers. Ah...rented land.

And OpenAI launches Chat GPTeams.

Rants and raves include Reddit's court victory over WallStreetBets and a big marketing mistake at Solo brands.

This week's links:

TechTarget x Informa

The Incredible Shrinking Podcast

So Much Media Consumption that's Wrong

OpenAI Debuts Teams

Reddit Wins Lawsuit

Solo Brands Names New CEO

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

If you don't get the title, stay until the end.

In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss what's happening at CES, including the role of the creator/influencer inside a media company.

Netflix, Instagram and Amazon all make major streaming cutbacks. Is this just "right sizing" the business, or is everyone trying to figure out how to compete with TikTok?

In rants and raves, it's the end of the third-party cookie on Google, and a new sports bar opens with access to sports from women athletes only.

This week's links:

CES 2024 Kicks Off

What Happens When the Creator Goes Crazy?

Netflix Cuts Over 100 Shows

CNBC to Start Courses

Third-Party Cookies

The Sports Bra

A Great Kickstarter Example

The True Crime Podcast from Robert Riggs

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Joe and Robert are back from a crazy 2023 with thoughts of Elon and crowdiness.

In this episode, Steamboat Willie is released from its copyright shackles. Is there an opportunity for brands in out-of-date content?

Fidelity lowers X's valuation even more. Is a turnaround to come?

Time appoints a new Chief Events Officer in a clear signal that there is a bull market for in-person events.

In rants and raves, Joe comments on the right-sizing of creator businesses, while Robert pontificates on clickbait.

This week's links:

Mickey Mouse Public Domain

Elon's X Gets Another Valuation Drop

Time Appoints Chief Events Officer

Creators Are Downsizing

Advertisers and Clickbait

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Joe and Robert take time out of their regular programming to talk about key marketing career challenges and how they overcame them. In addition, the boys do a speed round on content marketing pet peeves.

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Sahil Bloom's Annual Review

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

It's here! The annual episode where Robert and Joe predict everything that will not go right in the content marketing and media world. This year, the boys predict:

  • A social media collapse - TikTok and YouTube see big surges as the waves of the strike Tsunami hit.
  • AI goes mainstream and actually starts to earn its keep – but NOT in creating externally focused content  but rather conversational Advertising and behind the scenes marketing work.
  • Brands go "all in" on owned media  - especially video.
  • Local news and journalism make a big comeback.
  • At least three, major brands launch new, shiny print publications and send them through the post.
  • X will see a huge advertising turnaround (due to the fact that most everyone left). More eyeballs for less dollars.
  • Newsletters will continue their hot stream, led by creator referral networks, and you'll see more creators stop producing their lagging podcasts.
  • More AI-driven news networks continue to launch, followed by an AI running for president in 2028.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The latest social media usage results by Pew are out and...surprise, surprise...almost half of all teenagers are on social media "literally all the time." It seems that short-form videos are ruling the day on nearly all platforms.

Mega-publisher Axel Springer does a deal with ChatGPT to include news. What does this mean for media companies and the future of search?

And everything you know about podcasts might actually be wrong.

Rants and raves include permissions on Dropbox and Magna/OpenAP doing a deal.

This week's links:

Axel Springer Deals with OpenAI

Pew Research on Teen Social Media Usage

Everything You Know about Podcasts Is Wrong

Sounds Profitable Podcast Research

Spotify and Audiobook Streaming

Dropbox and Third-Party AI

How Anxiety Became Content

Magna and OpenAP Data Deal

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Google makes their big AI announcement regarding Google Gemini. Can the new AI suite save Google's stalling search business?

Is purpose-driven content dead after failures by Bud Light and Target? Joe is skeptical but Robert thinks there is a big opportunity.

Spotify announces some big layoffs and a strategic change, while the NCAA might be hiring students in the very near future.

Rants and raves include TikTok shopping and a new model for digital ad revenue.

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Google's Gemini Announced

Brand Backlash

Spotify's Strategic Changes

NCAA and NIL

Digital Ad Revenue's Up

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Elon Musk's remarks at the recent Dealbook conference show (inconclusive) evidence that he is actually trying to lower X's valuation to such a point to where he can buy the company back (from debtors) at pennies on the dollar.

Synthetic (AI) content is on the rise. Google is having major problems with it, and some (experts) say that over 90 percent of all content will be AI generated by 2026.

And finally, should creators (and marketers) start thinking about protecting their digital likeness? The boys say yes.

Rants and raves include an interesting move by Weibo and Google paying off publishers.

This week's links:

Joe's Studio Setup Details Here

Elon says "Go F' Yourself"

The Rapid Rise of Synthetic Content

How Creators Own Their Digital Likeness

Weibo and Anonymous Creators

Google's Publisher Group Shutting Down

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Note: This was recorded before Sam Altman was reinstated at OpenAI. Go figure!

Joe and Robert go indepth on the soap opera that is OpenAI, and the ramifications on marketers and content creators.

X sees another exodus of advertisers. Is this the end of the road for the former blue bird?

And TikTok is now used at a key news source for 30 percent of young adults. Should we be scared?

Rants and raves include ideas to save local journalism and Buzzfeed's new business model.

This week's links:

Paul Roetzer's AI Podcast about the History of OpenAI

Sam Altman Returns to OpenAI (added link)

Sam Altman Joins Microsoft

Why OpenAI Blew Up

X Responds to Advertisers Jumping Ship

Media Matters Grills Elon and X

Crisis in Local News

BuzzFeed Shifts Business Model

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The new actors' agreement and Meta's newly released guide for political advertisements tell us one big thing - AI content will begin to flourish. Get ready for massive process and job changes in the very near future directly because of these two announcements.

In other news, YouTube has ad blockers going crazy with their new AI-sniffer tools. Have we seen the end of ad blockers?

In rants and raves, Joe raves about SNAP's CEO and rants about the new ESPN Bet. Robert raves about Mark Ritson's US marketer call-to-arms.

This week's links:

The New Actors' Agreement

OpenAI Announces New Agents Program

Meta to Require AI Disclosures

YouTube and Ad Blockers

A Challenge to US Marketers

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

A very special episode where Joe and Robert review their content and marketing predictions from the previous year.

Do they make the grade? You need to judge for yourself.

  • TikTok will be banned.
  • Netflix will merge with another streaming platform.
  • LinkedIn will rise to the top.
  • First party data will rule.
  • AI dominates.
  • Google uses AI detector.
  • Content acquisitions on the rise.
  • Recession will be localized to tech only.
  • Cryptopunks and Bored Apes double.
  • Apple will introduce a headset.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 3:00am EST

A special 400th episode of This Old Marketing. And yes, the boys are getting up there!

Joe and Robert discuss AI announcements by the US President and Microsoft (launching of Copilot), as well as Google integrating AI into search. For AI to work well, it needs to be working from a correct set of information. Is that the case or should we be worried?

Elon holds a company meeting and talks about X doing almost everything. It's too bad that Apple and Google have a head start in this area.

And Disney buys out the rest of Hulu. Good thing? Regardless, Disney is having operational challenges.

Rants and raves include Joe's new website, IP addresses and Omnicom buying Flywheel.

This week's links:

Biden Signs AI Order

Microsoft Launches Copilot

Elon's Company Meeting about the Everything App

Disney to Buy Rest of Hulu

What the Heck is Disney's Problem?

Joe Pulizzi's Website

IP Addresses Aren't the Answer

Omnicom Buys Flywheel

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Breaking news as X year-over-year numbers plummet. Can the Elon-run social media site recover?

Meta, and more specifically Instagram, is being sued by 33 states. The charge? That the company repeatedly misled the public about the dangers of being on their platform.

Joe and Robert discuss the sad truth: Meta puts profits (and addiction) ahead of the future of America. Done and done.

And finally, new research suggests that trust in media is at an all-time low (and getting worse by the minute). But there is an opportunity.

Rants and raves include the B2B creator, TikTok launches an event, and new DC funding for local news.

This week's links:

X Usage Plummets

Meta Instagram Being Sued

Media Confidence in the US at a Low

DC Lawmakers Introduce Local News Bill

Marketing Needs More Marketing

The B2B Creator Opportunity

TikTok Events

OEF Night at the Races

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

This week the all-knowing Elon announced their "everyone gets charged a dollar" plan. Musk made this sound like it was a "bots" move. Joe and Robert know it's something completely different.

Tucker Carlson makes his well-telegraphed move to media company (we called this). What can creators and marketers learn from the move?

And marketers are as tense as ever. Is this temporary or just stating the obvious?

Rants and raves include a bit of Shakespeare, following by Google and Taylor Swift.

This week's links:

X Charges One Dollar

Tucker Carlson Media Company

Marketers Going Mental

Google's New Gating Move

OEF Night at the Races

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The boys ramp up the show talking about Kendall Jenner's new AI chatbot Billie, brought to you by Meta. Scary? Yes. More to come? Absolutely.

Social media sites have been making changes for years that are hurting traffic to media and brand sites. The latest data will bring chills to your web analytics manager.

At the same time, X is making some ridiculous moves, including rolling out a new "advertising" program, discouraging links in posts, and barring Linda Yaccarino from any more speaking events.

And finally, is Ryan Reynolds responsible for the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce hookup? Find out the truth today.

Rants and raves include more on the writers' and actor's strike and a fresh take from Joe on the movie "Dumb Money".

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The Kendall Jenner Chatbot

Social Media Referrals Going to the Dumpster

X Rolls Out New Ad Format

Musk Hates Outside Links

X CEO Out at Conferences

Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift

Writers' and Actors' Strike Update

Dumb Money Soundtrack

Eddie Bauer Changes Logo

Robert Rose Book Deal

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The boys are back in real-time talking all things X, Google's podcast moves, and how to drive subscriptions.

X CEO Linda Yaccarino does the company no favors with her interview at Vox's CODE conference. Ads are down. Usage is down. The only thing that can save X might be Linda's couch pants.

Google podcasts is no more. Alphabet decides to cancel the podcast player and move resources over to YouTube. Good move?

And new research is out about who exactly is paying for subscriptions these days. What works and what doesn't?

Rants and raves include US student debt and the end of the writers' strike.

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Linda Yaccarino at CODE conference

Google Podcasts All Dead

YouTube Launches Subscriber Tools

Paying for News Research

MrBeast Spends $120 million on Videos

US Student Debt Problems

Writers' Strike Details

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

A special Content Marketing World week episode where Joe and Robert break down their talks from the big event. 

Robert goes indepth on content marketing's evolution into, just, marketing. Or is it vice versa?

Joe goes through 20+ points about how a content marketer can make the transition to full-time content creator (as a business).

The boys also entertain a question from Paris (in a van) from Australia.

Finally...Joe and Robert make a big announcement.

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Can anyone save the media business? Joe and Robert discuss the downfall of big media and where the opportunities are for content marketers and creators.

Elon is pivoting X/Twitter to subscription only. Incredibly smart or inherently stupid?

Scribe Media is not dead (as reported). Good news?

And Google plays with politics and Taylor Swift.

Rants and raves include Robert's new book (link below) and how we need to buy differently from creators.

This week's links:

Elon Musk and Subscription

Hollywood Giants Slim Down

Scribe Is Alive

Google to Require AI Disclosure

Taylor Swift's Google Easter Egg

Robert's Book Content Marketing Strategy

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Is Quibi finally dead? Maybe...but the bigger issue is the "right sizing" of the streaming business as a whole. Valuations and investment continue to go lower.

The DOJ's trial against Google begins this week. Will anything stand or will Google continue to shake the regulators?

And Amazon decides to kill their periodicals business, putting more media companies and creators out of business. Who's at fault?

Rants and raves include the greatest pass in Cleveland history, the Apple iPhone 15 announcement, and CAA selling to Pinault.

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The DOJ Case Against Google

Amazon Kills the Periodical

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Apple Carbon Neutral Video

CAA Sells Majority Stake

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Disney, NY Times and CNN are among dozens of major media companies blocking access to ChatGPT. Is this the right move or completely short sighted? Joe and Robert think the latter.

At the same time, OpenAI launches their new enterprise product.

And Gannett (and others) backtracks on their usage of automated news writing. Is this the right decision?

Rants and raves include LinkedIn's new verification partnership with Clear and Charter's problem with Disney.

This week's links:

ChatGPT Blocked by Media Companies

ChatGPT Enterprise Launches

Gannett and Others Pull AI Writing

LinkedIn Verification

Disney/Charter Bundle

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

A very special episode of This Old Marketing where Joe and Robert take questions from LinkedIn. The boys answer such questions as:

Which marketing trend died out faster than expected, and which one will come back?

Which company/organization is doing content best today?

Other than AI, what the next thing in content marketing?

If you had to start over from scratch - no network, connections, favors, etc... and you had $10K to build a cash flow positive business making six figures within one year, what would you do and how would you do it?

If you weren't on your own - Which business would you go to work for, and why?

 

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The marketing and advertising recession continues on per a WPP earnings report. Is there an end in site? Will 2024 be better? The boys discuss.

Yuga Labs fights with Opensea about crypto revenues. Who is right? And...will crypto winter ever end?

Threads web version is "finally" here. Is it too little too late?

And finally, Elon scraps blocking in Twitter X. Does it really matter anymore?

Rants and raves include the ongoing writers' strike saga and the musical, Six.

This week's links:

WPP Lowers Guidance

Bored Ape Fights with Opensea

Threads On the Web

Musk Removes X/Twitter Blocking

Writers Strike Update

Six: The Musical

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

What do marketers and creators do about all the fake content?

Joe and Robert discuss a slew of AI-generated books, while an 80s horror film that never actually happened goes viral on TikTok.

And does Google care about your content as they employ more AI in their searches? The boys discuss a few ways to make sure your content continues to be found.

Rants and raves include a gender disparity documentary and a content marketing salary survey.

This week's links:

AI-Generated Books Are Fakes

Why Goodreads and Amazon Are Becoming Dumpster Fires

Zephotha the Fake Movie on TikTok

The SEO Apocalypse with Rand Fishkin

This Changes Everything Documentary

Content Marketing Salary Survey

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Big news this week as PENN sells Barstool Sports back to David Portnoy and (in an obvious move) partners with ESPN to create ESPN-branded sportsbooks around the country.

Could this be the end of civilization as we know it?

In other news, the "Apple buying Disney" frenzy continues. Joe and Robert argue about it for 10 minutes and both thinks they won the argument.

Spotify and NPR are killing off podcasts. Is the a good business move or a lack of long-term thinking?

And Kai Cenat creates a mob in New York City. Should Kai have known better?

In rants and raves, Joe raves about the Barbie movie while Robert rants about media's coverage of the recent Zoom news.

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Disney Sale to Apple?

Disney Beats Estimates

The Barstool/Penn/ESPN deal on Twitter

ESPN, PENN Strike Agreement

Why Publishers Are Reducing Podcasts

Kai Cenat and New York

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

This week Joe and Robert discuss how every piece of content created has "at least" a little bit of AI in it.

Meta blocks news links in Canada. Is this a negotiation tactic or a sign of things to come?

The movie Sound of Freedom continues to defy box office expectations. Is this because of a novel marketing approach or something different?

In rants and raves, Joe discusses a new content marketing game from Baseball Reference, while Robert talks about Joe.

This week's links:

Lulu Acquires The Tilt and Creator Economy Expo

Created By AI Warning

The AI Gartner Hype Cycle

Stanford Scientists Find that ChatGPT Is Getting Stupider

Meta Starts Blocking News Sites in Canada

Sound of Freedom Marketing

Sound of Freedom: The Full Story

Immaculate Grid Baseball

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The boys go in-depth discussing the Twitter move to X. What's the future of Twitter X and is there a future at all? What does this mean for Threads?

Could there be a deal to bring the two together?

Rants and raves include the battle for CMS and Marketing AI Institute.

This week's links:

Twitter Rebrands as X

The Tranformation to the Everything App

Threads Unraveling?

Don't Count Out Threads

Vox Media Halts CMS

Marketing AI Conference

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

This week we cover breaking news from McGraw-Hill Education. MHE made the decision last week to kill their business book division. What does this mean for new business books and the future of business publishing?

Elon announces more problems at Twitter, including the fact that they keep losing money AND are cash negative.

At the same time, Threads engagement goes down. Does the initial data tell us anything about what will happen to Baby Zuckerberg?

And advertising continues to plummet. When will we hit the bottom?

Rants and raves include the writer and actor strike and a must-listen-to AI podcast.

This week's links:

Twitter Cash Negative

Threads Engagement Down

Advertising Continues to Plummet

Mo Gawdat/Prof G Podcast

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Disney CEO Bob Iger received an extension to stay as CEO until the end of 2026. Joe believes this is just enough time to sell the company to Apple (of course). Robert and Joe discuss what it will take to make that happen.

Threads starts laying out advertising guidelines, but should they even do it? Joe says no and Robert says wait.

Finally, the Morning Brew talks about what makes media success, but most of all, the advantages for content marketing are clear.

Rants and raves include Aretha Franklin's will and the new Star Trek series.

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Analyst Expects Disney to Sell

Threads to Launch Branded Content

Meta Is Pitching Threads Advertising

Morning Brew Breakdown

Aretha's Will Disaster

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The big news of the week is Meta's launch of Twitter-competitor Threads in the United States. Is this finally the Twitter killer we were looking for, or just another also ran?

In other news, Snap continues to impress with its new subscription product. Could the company finally have found a paid social model that works?

Rants and raves includes Margot Robbie and Barbie with a side of advertising rant from Robert.

This week's links:

Meta's Threads Launches

Twitter Backtracks on Logging In

Unverified Restrictions on Twitter

Tweetdeck for Blue Check Only?

Snapchat+ for the Win

Advertising Waste

Margot Goes Barbie All the Time

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

A #ThisOldMarketing mid-year special episode where Joe and Robert cover what marketers and content creators should be paying attention to, including:

  • Creating Too Much Content (and not enough activation)
  • AI in Content
  • Taking Your Email Newsletter Seriously
  • What Is the Website?
  • The Video Strategy
  • The Job Market
  • Print Is Back
  • Here Come the Acquisitions

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Twitter goes on a brand safety publicity tour, but it won't help their advertising sales. 

Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk trade threats about an actual cage fight. If it happens, Joe is putting is money on the Zuck. Robert likes Elon's "walrus" play.

TikTok is booming with TikTok coins. Who knew?

InBev continues to chase mistakes as it just wants to create "beer for everyone."

Rants and raves include the US Open and the continuing saga at Reddit.

This week's links:

Twitter & Brand Safety

The Elon/Zuck Cage Fight

TikTok Coins

AB InBev Troubles

Reddit & the Protest

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:30am EST

Could it be that the future of the US will get their news from TikTok? Robert and Joe discuss how this can go down a dark, lonely path for many.

Google News announces (yet again) that it will launch soon (very soon!).

And the creator-friendly site known as Twitter is opening up a flawed advertising model for a handful of people that will pay pennies on the dollar.

Rants and raves include the Arnold documentary and the rented land crisis at Reddit.

This week's links:

Cleveland Browns New Logo

Fewer People Getting News, But More from TikTok

Google Finally Launches News Product

Twitter's New Creator Advertising Program

The Arnold Documentary on Netflix

The Reddit Crisis

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Big news of the week is the PGA tour merging with the Saudi-backed LIV tour. Joe and Robert talk about what this means for brands in the future.

Apple launches the Vision Pro. Will there be a long-term market for the product?

Rumors again surface about Apple buying Disney. Is this even close to being possible?

And Elon announces that Twitter's subscribers can me moved off-platform.

Rants and raves include ChatGPT-5 and Tucker Carlson.

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PGA/LIV Merger

Apple Launches Vision Pro

Disney/Apple Rumors

Twitter to Launch Subscriber Offer?

ChatGPT-5

Tucker Carlson's New Twitter Show

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about the 22-word statement from the creators of AI. Simply put, we are in big trouble.

WPP launches a content engine with Nvidia that will make the production of ads quicker and easier because of AI. I know...everything we always wanted.

Elon continues to push Twitter over the edge, including a big middle-finger to the EU's Disinformation Code of Practice, and the formal outsourcing of their ad unit.

And finally, does purpose-driven content have a place with "everybody" brands today?

Rants and raves include a fan moment at the Indy 500 and the hope that Peloton has righted the ship.

This week's links:

AI Could Destroy Humanity

WPP Building AI Content Engine

Elon Drops Moderation

Twitter Outsources Ads

Twitter Worth One-Third Less

Purpose-Driven Marketing

Peloton's New Brand Move

Indy 500 Champ Goes Fans First

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this episode, Elon goes full Murdoch, trying to build Twitter into the next Fox News.

Advertising continues to plummet for media companies and creators. How long will this ad recession last?

There are rumors that Meta will announce a Twitter competitor any time now. Joe and Robert believe this is false news.

And TikTok sues Montana in the goofball move of the year (by Montana, not TikTok).

Rants and raves include the creator economy middle class and 71 percent of CMOs want more marketing tech budget.

This week's links:

Musk Moves in on Murdoch

Advertising Is in a Recession

Instagram to Release Twitter Competitor?

TikTok Sues Montana

Marketers Want More Budget [Research]

The Creator Economy Middle Class

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The battle for AI continues...this time on the Hill. Sam Altman testified to Congress, doing his best Harrison Ford impression (you'll get the reference after listening).

The writers' strike continues, and now includes generative AI at the center.

And there is a new product coming out that could solve the copyright battle.

Podcasting ads are going gangbusters, while Google is about the change the face of search (maybe).

Rants and raves include the Daily Dracula and a lesson about advertising from Dotdash Meredith.

This week's links:

Sam Altman Takes the Hill

Copyright and the Writers' Strike

A New Copyright Savior? 

Podcasting Ad Growth

New Google Search

DotDash Meredith's New Advertising Model

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The next great online battle is that over trust.

We are seeing this play out in front of us, first with the news of Tucker Carlson moving from Fox to Twitter, then Elon's "trust nothing" decree, and then as millions flood to follow MrBeast.

Google and Microsoft go to battle over AI advertising products that aren't ready for market yet.

Rants and raves include Berkshire Hathaway's annual letter and Salesforce's pivot to AI.

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Tucker Carlson to Twitter

Elon Musk and Trust Nothing

MrBeast Increases Followers by 20 Million in a Day

MSFT to Monetize Chat and AI

Google's Generative AI Search Ads

Berkshire's Annual Letter to Investors

Salesforce Pivots to AI

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

For only the fourth time in history, Joe and Robert record a live episode face-to-face. Creator Economy Expo (CEX) 2023 brought content creators from all over the world together between May 1st and 3rd.

The boys do a complete roundup of the latest creator economy research, as well as an overview of the keynotes at CEX, all inside the Evergreen Podcast Networks studio at CEX.

This week's links:

2023 Creator Economy Research from The Tilt

Creator Economy Expo

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Big media news this week as multiple big name personalities get let go, plus Buzzfeed News decides to shutter its news division.

Twitter's verification system is, frankly, all over the place. Elon cannot keep a decision for more than 24 hours at this point.

ChatGPT announces new privacy options you didn't even know was a problem. Is AI and content making more or less sense these days?

Rants and raves include AI consumer research and a mea culpa from Robert and his take on Bud Light's marketing.

This week's stories:

Buzzfeed News Closure

Twitter's Botched Verification

ChatGPT's Privacy Settings

AI Consumer Survey

Bud Light Fires Marketing Execs

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Elon is back in the news, announcing that Twitter will now report directly into X corp. Is this the X everything app plan or a way to hide expenses?

A Drake song goes viral that wasn't really Drake. Joe and Robert discuss the impact of AI parodies from music to text (and what we should expect).

Spotify goes non-exclusive with Gimlet. Was this a planned or surprise move?

And a new Deloitte survey shows that video games now top the content chart. What other changes in content consumption are ahead?

Rants and raves include the movie Air and how B2B content marketing needs to step up.

This week's articles:

Twitter Now X Corp

Could Elon Turn a Profit Soon?

AI Drake Goes Viral

Spotify and Gimlet

Video Games Top Content Charts

B2B Content Marketing Needs to Bold Up

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Bytedance, the owner of TikTok, puts big money behind their Instagram/Pinterest clone called Lemon8. Pushing for a May launch in the states, Lemon8 is going directly after Instagram (and perhaps the US government). Will it succeed in an already crowded social media field?

Bud Light gets hate mail from Kid Rock. Is that a good or bad thing?

And AI continues to be the leading story in the world of marketing. When will the hurting stop?

In rants and raves, Joe raves about a Lin-Manuel Miranda clip, while Robert rants about Twitter (again).

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A Lemon8 Overview

Lemon8 Gets Big Downloads

Bud Light Backlash

Hank Green Is Scared of AI

Can AI Defame You?

Lin-Manuel Miranda/John Kander Clip on Colbert

Twitter's Checkmark Blues

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Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert go back and forth each sharing the five best decisions they made over their careers that helped them build a loyal audience.

While some are no brainers, a few of these will surprise you.

We hope you enjoy this very special episode of This Old Marketing.

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Direct download: 23-04-07-Episode-370.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

This week, the boys analyze the surprise announcement from Substack about how they want their customers to also be investors. Is this an innovative or inclusionary move, or a sign that the Substack business model is suffering?

Some big hitters move against the proliferation of AI. Good move or too late?

Twitter and Meta are both going full-out "verified" and want money from their creators. Is this a necessary evil or something we should ignore?

Rants and raves include a prison marathon and an AI rant from Robert.

This week's links:

Invest with Substack

Is Substack Crazy or Evil?

Social Media Goes Paid Route

US Ad Forecast Cut Again

Musk and Others Call for Stop to AI

Everyone Is an AI Expert

San Quentin Marathon

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Direct download: 23-03-31-Episode-369.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

Oh boy is TikTok in the news this week.

Now more than 150 million Americans use TikTok on a regular basis. The US government believes this is a security risk for multiple reasons. But most people aren't talking about the #1 reason (we discuss this).

Streaming is down from its lofty levels. Will it continue to dip? We think it might. Is there a new streaming model on the way?

And social media is going the way of the DM. What does this mean for marketers?

In rants and raves, Joe raves about Rand Fishkin's ChatGPT rant while Robert rants (again) about zero-party data.

This week's links:

TikTok to 150M

Map of States Banning TikTok

TikTok Gears Up for Congress

Streaming Slowdown

Social Media and the DM

Zero-Party Data Rant

YouTube and Podcasts

Rand's ChatGPT Rant

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Direct download: 23-03-24-Episode-368.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 7:00am EST

This week, TikTok is back in the news with an ultimatum from Biden's camp. The SVB collapse takes center stage, and Joe and Robert go into the weeds discussing it.

Will Meta be the next AOL? We think the news is overblown.

ChatGPT-4 is released and the world turns on its axis.

And then there is Ryan Reynolds, who sells Mint Mobile for $1.3 billion, an entirely marketing-driven feet. How did he do it? Let's discuss.

In rants and raves, Joe comments about content creation and patience while Robert raves about HBO's "The Last of Us."

This week's links:

TikTok Ultimatum

SVB Collapse

Meta? The Next AOL?

ChatGPT-4 Released

T-Mobile Buys Mint from Reynolds and Team

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Direct download: 23-03-17-Episode-367.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

TikTok is all over the news again. This time, a bipartisan committee has come up with a bill for Biden to ban TikTok. But not just that. It will give executive powers to ban pretty much anything that they "deem" a security risk. Joe and Robert believe this bill goes too far.

In other news, Medium makes a "meh" announcement about Mastodon, while this week just about every major tech company launched an AI product.

Oh...and tech pub Wired wrote a manifesto for using AI. And it's not bad.

Rants and raves include easybib.com and living life without regrets.

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This week's links:

US TikTok Ban Detail

Medium and Mastodon

Microsoft's AI Integration

Salesforce's New Einstein

Hubspot Chatspot

Wired's Guidelines for Using AI

OpenAI Criticism

No Regrets

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Direct download: 23-03-10-Episode-366.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The godfather is back for the special #ThisOldMarketing 365 reunion show.

In this episode the boys break down Meta's new verified subscription program. Could it be that they say good things about Facebook for the first time ever?

Substack hits two million paid subscriptions. Is this important for creators?

Bing continues to get all the news with its ongoing issues with AI. Could marketing be the answer?

And...we bring brack our "Musky Scent" series and talk about Elon's next move.

Finally...will TikTok finally go bye bye?

This week's links:

Meta's Verified

Substack 2 Million

Microsoft and Bing's AI

Twitter Keeps Breaking

Twitter Lays Off More

Jack Launches Twitter Alternative

TikTok Be Banned?

In Praise of Brand Newsletters

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Direct download: 23-03-03-Episode-365.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

With Joe on another sabbatical, Robert hosts the amazing Paul Roetzer, the world's foremost expert on marketing and AI content. Robert asks Paul the following:

1. How do you think the development of AI-based search affects brands willingness to make content available to search engines? Will people start putting more of their content behind a gate?

2. From a content and marketing perspective – where are you most BULLISH, and where are you most CONCERNED about the impact AI is likely to have in the short and medium term?

3. I’m going to come back to the question that I asked at MarketingProfs, which is – do you think MarketingAI becomes an OS in the Marketing Department?  In other words you Buy Microsoft AI or Amazon AI and it powers your email analytics, headline writing, copywriting, and first-party data pattern matching… OR… Do you think that suite solutions are more likely to just include whatever flavor of AI they buuild into their applications?

4. What are some of the developments in Marketing Artificial Intelligence that we’re NOT talking about? You posted a very interesting thing on Social Media on the assembly and creation of video (https://research.runwayml.com/gen1)- Talk a bit about this development and what ELSE are we NOT talking about that we should be.

This week's link:

AI Concens at Bing and Google

MAICON - The Marketing AI Conference

Paul's Book - Marketing Artificial Intelligence

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Direct download: 23-02-24-Episode-364.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this episode, Time and Taboola team up (is that Timeboola?) for a new eCommerce experiment. Is eCommerce the new sponsorship for publishers?

The disinformation war is over. Disinformation won.

And AI content is changing the business model for creators and the fight for search. Does this open a real opportunity for those who have audiences? Is AI content just a race to the bottom?

In rants and raves, Joe loves this new research out about reading fiction, while Robert's viral post on the comma goes, well, viral.

This week's links:

Time/Taboola Deal

The Disinformation War Is Over

Content Creators Concerned Over AI Content

Buzzfeed AI and the Death of Content

Reading Fiction Makes You a Better Person

Robert's Comma Post on LinkedIn

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Direct download: 23-02-17-Episode-363.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 2:16pm EST

In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert break down the good, the bad and the ugly for social media platforms in 2023 and beyond, including Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, Twitter and more.

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Direct download: 23-02-10-Episode-362.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

More ChatGPT news this week, as Microsoft works to integrate the AI tool into Bing, while Buzzfeed's stock soars as the company announces their new work process that includes ChatGPT.

It's earnings time, as Spotify and Meta both announce...and bounce. What's Spotify's new podcast plan? Can Meta make a comeback?

And the boys get bullish on LinkedIn, as their newsletter plan jumps 10x in the past year.

Rants and raves includes MrBeast and streaming competition.

This week's story links:

Super Bowl Ad Preview

MSFT Integrates AI into Bing

Buzzfeed Announces ChatGPT Play

Spotify's Earnings

Meta's Stock Soars

LinkedIn's Big Newsletter Play

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Direct download: 23-02-03-Episode-361.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

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This week the boys discuss a breaking story about OpenAI and Kenya. The memes are everywhere.

Spotify is laying off six percent of its workforce. Are they signaling something about a podcast bear market we should know about?

The DOJ is coming down hard on Google. Are they five years too late?

Rants and raves include the story behind the media layoffs, and more on Joe's LinkedIn experiment.

This week's story links:

OpenAI and Kenyan Workers

Spotify Layoffs

Google's Antitrust Lawsuit

More Media Layoffs

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Direct download: 23-01-27-Episode-360.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

The past few weeks have been everything ChatGPT and AI. Joe and Robert cover multiple AI lawsuits, as well as Microsoft's $10 billion dollar bet on OpenAI.

JPMorgan forgets to do major due diligence in its content marketing purchase, while Parler seems to be saying bye bye.

In "musky scent" Elon has a garage sale.

Oh...and the boys are still arguing about the definition of content marketing.

This week's links:

AI Copyright Lawsuit

Getty Art Lawsuit

MSFT's Bet on OpenAI

JPMorgan's Frank Failure

Parler Layoffs

Twitter Garage Sale

Twitter Debt Payments

Brand Publishing vs. Content Marketing

Musk Inspires Layoffs

Higher Headcount Bad at Twitter

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Direct download: 23-01-20-Episode-359.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST

In this very special This Old Marketing episode, Joe and Robert peel back the curtain and talk about their business models.

What's working? What's changed? What's next? What can you learn?

The gents hold nothing back in this very special episode.

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Direct download: 23-01-13-Episode-358.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EST