This Old Marketing

In this episode, the boys discuss the future of NFTs and content marketing, the mixture of HBO and Discovery, Web3 gimmicks and the normalization of podcasting.

Rants and raves include more Nielsen drama and Yuga Labs buying CryptoPunks.

Links this episode include:

HBO Max + Discovery

Instagram All-In on NFTs

Acura Launches New NFT Program

Lacoste Goes Metaverse with Minecraft

Podcasting Ads on Upswing

Nielsen Drama

Yuga Labs Buys CryptoPunks/Meebits

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Direct download: 22-03-18-Episode-315.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

After the launch of the very successful Disney+, mouse executives have decided to screw the entire thing up by offering an ad-supported streaming option. Good job!

One anonymous user just got an $8 million dollar loan backed by CryptoPunk NFTs. What does this mean for crypto and NFT marketing?

Netflix buys a game maker in news from the obvious, while the knitting community goes to threads over a content creator.

Rants and raves include a knock on Slack and quality Disney data.

Links this episode:

Disney's Ad-Supported Option

CryptoPunk Loan

Netflix Gaming Buy

Knitting.com Fail

Slack Platform Mess

Disney Data

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Direct download: 22-03-11-Episode-314.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

This week we discuss the Russia/Ukraine conflict and the impact on crypto and media coverage. M&A continues to go crazy as Epic Games buys Bandcamp. Elsewhere, Salesforce goes NFT and their employees revolt. And as expected, TikTok announces the move to 10-minute videos. What's next? Infinity.

Rants and raves include NFTs for access and a podcasting toy for white guys.

Links this Episode:

Attend CEX - Creator Economy Expo

Tweet regarding Russian Media

Russia's Propaganda Machine

Epic Games Buys Bandcamp

Salesforce Accounces NFT Cloud Service

SF Employees Protest NFT Service

TikTok Goes to 10 Minutes

Podcast on NFTs for Access with Mike Stelzner and Joe Pulizzi

Coinbase Super Bowl Ad Controversy

Podcast Toy for White Guys - SNL

h/t Tom Webster for the episode title.

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Direct download: 22-03-04-Episode-313_-_2.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 12:29pm EDT

In this very special #ThisOldMarketing episode, Joe and Robert take a deep dive into the Web3 universe. They cover:

- The evolution from Web1 to Web2 to Web3.
- The pushback against Web3 and tokens.
- Examples of what's working and what isn't.
- Opportunities for content creators.
- Short-term Web3 predictions.

Links this episode:

Go-to-market in Web3

JP Morgan Enters Web3

Coinbase and TRUST

Why Brands Need to Pay Attention to NFTs

Attend CEX - Creator Economy Expo

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Direct download: 22-02-25-Episode-312.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

In this episode Joe and Robert run through the Super Bowl ad winners and losers. There may be some surprises.

Spotify buys more and more podcast companies as it makes a business model shift. And Binance, of all companies, takes a $200 million dollar stake in Forbes.

Rants and raves include Andrew Davis' video prowess and a Web3 comparison to John D. Rockefeller.

Episode Links -

Coinbase Rocks the Super Bowl

Super Bowl Winners

Spotify Buys More

Binance and Forbes

Andrew Davis and Loyaty Loop

Register for Creator Economy Expo

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Direct download: 22-02-18-Episode-311.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

The boys cover the ongoing Spotify/Joe Rogan saga, while Robert's new book title should be "Epic Marketing Rant."


The continuing soap opera at Spotify calls into question the editorial control needs of a platform. And yes, platform also means media company.

Buzzfeed outs the BAYC founders. Was this the right thing to do? And, really? Buzzfeed?

More than 50 percent of all ad spending in 2022 will go to three companies. Joe thinks we need to start supporting small, niche content creators.

And we have three company examples experimenting with the Metaverse. Well, not really.

In rants and raves, Joe comments about the ability to create IP and NOT own an NFT, while Robert delivers an epic rant around marketing measurement.

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Direct download: 22-02-11-Episode-310.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

The Spotify/Joe Rogan situation seems to be gaining momentum as more musicians and podcasters dump the platform for Apple pastures.

Wordle wiggles seven figures out of the New York Times, while product analytics company Pendo went out and purchased themselves a media company as the M&A market heats up.

In rants and raves, Robert complains yet again about zero-party data. Joe comments on the early nature of NFTs, and begs Mark Ritson for more curiosity.

Robert's book recommendation: The Opposable Mind by Roger Martin.

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Direct download: 22-02-04-Episode-309.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

Neil Young gives the finger to Spotify, while influencers and content creators fight for naming rights.


In today's episode, Neil Young takes a stand against Joe Rogan and Spotify. Will it work and does it matter?

And...right-wing commentator Joe Bongino gets booted from YouTube. Do they have the right, and what's the long-term play?

We discuss the meaning of influencers versus creators as McDonald's goes influencer, Trump Social goes searching, and Forbes gets into the creator economy.

And finally, Tom Brady launches his new crypto NFT project. Yes, we are going back to the year 2000.

In rants and raves, Joe raves about Andy Weir's new book, and Robert rants about Google and ad privacy.

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Direct download: 22-01-28-Episode-308.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

In this week's news, Microsoft buys Activision for $69 billion (are you kidding me?). Is this important and why should creators/marketers care?

There is a new bill on the hill about data and advertising. The only thing we know for sure is that first-party data is more important than ever. Get those emails ready to go!

Google/YouTube drops YouTube Originals. Can Google commit to anything? Was this a sound decision?

Joe raves about a Web3 chart and reviews the online battle for Web3 between Prof G and Packy McCormick. Of course, both Joe and Robert have a take. Robert then raves about Edelman's new trust report.

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Direct download: 22-01-21-Episode-307.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT

This week, Joe and Robert cover The New York Times purchase of The Athletic. The good, the bad and the very ugly. All in all, we're thumbs up.

The Information says media valuations are down except for paid subscription models. True? Well, not really.

LinkedIn is going all newsroom. Will this finally be the move that vaults LinkedIn to B2B media king? Will their social audio feature help?

Oh...and Jake Paul launches a sports drink while a reality star sells her farts as NFTs (you can't make this stuff up).

In rants and raves, Joe comments on the Great Resignation and a big deal in NIL sports. Robert then goes old school with Harvard Business Review.

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Direct download: 22-01-14-Episode-306.mp3
Category:Content Marketing -- posted at: 4:00am EDT